Insane Limits Requests

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

Procon doesn't know anything about players who haven't joined yet. The server could be full with no one waiting or there could be 4 people waiting, it looks the same to Procon.

 

Battlelog is in control of who joins the server, not the game server. Battlelog asks the game server, "Are you full_" If the game server says no, Battlelog lets the next person join. If it says yes, Battlelog puts that person in a join queue. Then if aggressive join and reserved slots is enabled, it does all that. The upshot being the game server doesn't know someone is trying to join a server. All it knows is that someone actually is joining the server, because there is room or because room was made via aggressive join.

 

 

Procon doesn't know that there is a VIP waiting to join. It doesn't know that there is anyone waiting to join. It only knows about the ones that were allowed to join, which only happens if the server is NOT full (or Battlelog controlled aggressive join is active).

 

There simply is not enough information in Procon to do what you want to do. It's old-school BF2 reserved slots or BF4 aggressive join with no choice about message or etc.

Ok so if we make it the old scool way can we then decide to only kick lowscored and newly joined? Perhaps then it is a good way to do this? then we can have 1 reserved slot locked and kick on player on join? or we can have two reserved slots and kick noone?

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Originally Posted by Dudenell*:

 

Of course you can, you don't need my blessing.

 

I now understand all the cases, thanks for the detailed rundown.

 

The code itself looks good, except for one mistake in the second limit (OnAnyChat), first_check code. The case for an admin typing !admin isn't right.

 

 

Remeber that this is the !admin case, so the part in red isn't correct. That code should be using reason as the message sent instead of msg1.

OH that's on purpose

 

The first if statement (checking if player is admin who typed the message) is so that the admin call isn't sent if an admin accidentally included extra stuff after the initial !admin (no reason to send a text if the player is an admin)

 

The else if statement is only used if a player types !admin and there are currently admins on the server, no reason to have text messages sent to all the admins if there are admins on the server currently.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Can I use a char meaning "any chars" instead of exact players name in MULTIbalancer ?

 

If not nvm I'll try to find all theirs names.

 

Thank you

 

Naurel

No, sorry, full names or clan tags only.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Ok so if we make it the old scool way can we then decide to only kick lowscored and newly joined? Perhaps then it is a good way to do this? then we can have 1 reserved slot locked and kick on player on join? or we can have two reserved slots and kick noone?

Yes to all of the above -- this is what I thought you were asking the first time, sorry for not being clear about that.

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

Hi, I would like more adeptive idle time out.

 

It should be based on game mode and number of players online.

 

For example if RUSH

but if defuse then idle timeout 200

 

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Tomgun*:

 

could I please have a script for no sniper rifles and DMRS when its domination for bf4 please

 

cheers

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Hi, I would like more adeptive idle time out.

 

It should be based on game mode and number of players online.

 

For example if RUSH

but if defuse then idle timeout 200

 

Thanks.

Are there any other possible modes, or just those two? And what should it be if RUSH with 6 or more players? I'll assume 300 for those cases.

 

Create a new limit OnIntervalServer, call it "Adaptive Idle", set interval to 60 seconds, leave Action set to None.

 

Set first_check to this Code:

 

Code:

String key = "Adaptive idle time";
int idle = Convert.ToInt32(server.IdleTimeout);
if (server.Data.issetInt(key)) {
    idle = server.Data.getInt(key);
}
int next = 300;
String msg = "IDLE set to " + next;

if (server.Gamemode == "RushLarge0") {
    if (server.PlayerCount < 6) {
        next = 3600;
        msg = "RUSH: idle set to " + next;
    }
} else if (server.Gamemode == "Elimination0") {
    next = 200;
    msg = "DEFUSE: idle set to " + next;
}

if (idle != next) {
    idle = next;
    plugin.ServerCommand("vars.idleTimeout", idle.ToString());
    plugin.Data.setInt(key, idle);
    plugin.ConsoleWrite(msg);
    plugin.ServerCommand("vars.idleTimeout"); // refresh the new setting
}
return false;

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

could I please have a script for no sniper rifles and DMRS when its domination for bf4 please

 

cheers

Start with the No Snipers limit:

 

showthread....its-No-Snipers*!

 

Then add this second_check Expression:

 

Code:

(server.Gamemode == "Domination0")

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

Are there any other possible modes, or just those two? And what should it be if RUSH with 6 or more players? I'll assume 300 for those cases.

 

Create a new limit OnIntervalServer, call it "Adaptive Idle", set interval to 60 seconds, leave Action set to None.

 

Set first_check to this Code:

 

Code:

String key = "Adaptive idle time";
int idle = Convert.ToInt32(server.IdleTimeout);
if (server.Data.issetInt(key)) {
    idle = server.Data.getInt(key);
}
int next = 300;
String msg = "IDLE set to " + next;

if (server.Gamemode == "RushLarge0") {
    if (server.PlayerCount < 6) {
        next = 3600;
        msg = "RUSH: idle set to " + next;
    }
} else if (server.Gamemode == "Elimination0") {
    next = 200;
    msg = "DEFUSE: idle set to " + next;
}

if (idle != next) {
    idle = next;
    plugin.ServerCommand("vars.idleTimeout", idle.ToString());
    plugin.Data.setInt(key, idle);
    plugin.ConsoleWrite(msg);
    plugin.ServerCommand("vars.idleTimeout"); // refresh the new setting
}
return false;

Nice

 

The players on the server wants to have no vehicle if less then 6 players online and then activate vehicals if more then 6 online can we do this the same way?

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Nice

 

The players on the server wants to have no vehicle if less then 6 players online and then activate vehicals if more then 6 online can we do this the same way?

No, there's no way to do that without making the server infantry only. The best you can do is increase the vehicle spawn delay to a large number, which means that every vehicle will spawn twice and then not again for the rest of the round. But that lasts a whole round. If the server fills mid round, there will still be no vehicles.

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Originally Posted by Kinsman*:

 

Is this still the right votekick limit to use for BF4?

 

myrcon.net/...insane-limits-examples#entry18609

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Originally Posted by Hutchew*:

 

Working ping kicker/limiter, please.

 

LatencyManager is fubared, atm, and would be really nice to be able to adjust ping limits during the night, so overseas players can help keep the servers rolling.

 

Any takers? I haven't a clue where to begin, but more than willing to lend a test server and my time.

 

TIA,

Hutchew

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

Ok so if we make it the old scool way can we then decide to only kick lowscored and newly joined? Perhaps then it is a good way to do this? then we can have 1 reserved slot locked and kick on player on join? or we can have two reserved slots and kick noone?

I would like to have this adaptive aggressive join.

Because I Think it is better that it is kicking the queue then making all angry.

I have thought about this and I want it to be on the reserved slot list that Controls this,

you can have an option to include the reserved slots or not but I want the reserved slots list to be included if this is the way.

I also want it not kick people that are tagged together

 

Here is the kick order list that I suggest:

 

• Kick newly joined with zero score

• kick people with no squad

• kick people with lowest score

 

- now people are asking me every day why there where kicked because the aggressive join does not give any reason to kick people, this is very irrigating.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Is this still the right votekick limit to use for BF4?

 

myrcon.net/...insane-limits-examples#entry18609

I doubt it, it's so old. Unless someone has tested it, I wouldn't risk it.

 

Isn't there a votekick plugin you could use that's updated to BF4?

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Working ping kicker/limiter, please.

 

LatencyManager is fubared, atm, and would be really nice to be able to adjust ping limits during the night, so overseas players can help keep the servers rolling.

 

Any takers? I haven't a clue where to begin, but more than willing to lend a test server and my time.

 

TIA,

Hutchew

Try nagging Zaeed first. You're not the only one who wants that working on BF4. Duplicating a plugin in Insane Limits is wasted effort.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

I would like to have this adaptive aggressive join.

Because I Think it is better that it is kicking the queue then making all angry.

I have thought about this and I want it to be on the reserved slot list that Controls this,

you can have an option to include the reserved slots or not but I want the reserved slots list to be included if this is the way.

I also want it not kick people that are tagged together

 

Here is the kick order list that I suggest:

 

• Kick newly joined with zero score

• kick people with no squad

• kick people with lowest score

 

- now people are asking me every day why there where kicked because the aggressive join does not give any reason to kick people, this is very irrigating.

How many slots do you want to reserve? 2?

 

So if you have 64 slots total and the server fills up to 62, when the 63rd person joins, the code will check if the person is on the reserved slots list. If yes, they are allowed to join and no kicking happens and now you will only have 1 reserved slot left. If no, they are kicked as soon as they join and the server stays at 62.

 

Where does the kick order list come in? The player kicked will always be the one joining. Even with your rules, the one joining will always be the one kicked anyway, since they will have zero score and will always be the newest player.

 

Understand that this may kick a lot of joiners. Battlelog will see that you have 2 slots open and will send a lot of players to your server. They will all get kicked. It might be a good idea to change your vars.serverDescription to explain that 2 (or whatever) slots are kept in reserve and that the joining player may get kicked to keep those slots open.

 

What do you want the kick message to be? You can change it, of course, but I need an initial value for the code.

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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

Can someone point me to the Admin VIP announcer enhancement, I saw it yesterday but now I can't find it, ty.

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

2 slots always reserved is perhaps what is needed?

 

The server kick message can be

"The server queue is full, only reserved slots can join, please try again later"

 

The kick message for the user can be the standard message?

"Making Room for Members"

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

2 slots always reserved is perhaps what is needed?

 

The server kick message can be

"The server queue is full, only reserved slots can join, please try again later"

 

The kick message for the user can be the standard message?

"Making Room for Members"

Uh, I think there is still a misunderstanding somewhere. There's only one kick and there will only be one message. The only time a player is kicked is when the server has 62 players and someone new tries to join that is not on the reserved slots list. None of the existing 62 players will be kicked, ever.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Can someone point me to the Admin VIP announcer enhancement, I saw it yesterday but now I can't find it, ty.

I don't think that's a limit. I think it's a plugin. Did you check the plugin list?

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

Uh, I think there is still a misunderstanding somewhere. There's only one kick and there will only be one message. The only time a player is kicked is when the server has 62 players and someone new tries to join that is not on the reserved slots list. None of the existing 62 players will be kicked, ever.

But none is kicked? what happens if 3 VIP is joining the game? Or if 2 vips join and then the third?

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

But none is kicked? what happens if 3 VIP is joining the game? Or if 2 vips join and then the third?

Remember, once the server is truly full, Battlelog takes over and does everything. The limit code can't do anything once the server is completely full and Battlelog is controlling joins because the limit code doesn't know that anyone else is trying to join.

 

3 VIPs join a 64 slot server with 2 reserved slots:

 

62 players - VIP #1 joins, no one kicked, server now has 63 players, one reserved slot left

 

63 players - VIP #2 joins, no one kicked, server now has 64 players, no reserved slots left (truly full)

 

64 players - VIP #3 tries to join, Battlelog puts VIP #3 on a wait queue, no one is kicked by the limit code -- BUT, if you have aggressiveJoin enabled, some random player will be kicked without a nice message.

 

 

2 VIPs and a non-VIP join a 64 slot server with 2 reserved slots:

 

62 players - VIP #1 joins, no one kicked, server now has 63 players, one reserved slot left

 

63 players - VIP #2 joins, no one kicked, server now has 64 players, no reserved slots left (truly full)

 

64 players - non-VIP tries to join, Battlelog puts player on a wait queue, no one is kicked by the limit code

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Originally Posted by Tomgun*:

 

Start with the No Snipers limit:

 

showthread....its-No-Snipers*!

 

Then add this second_check Expression:

 

Code:

(server.Gamemode == "Domination0")

came up with this

 

[09:01:49 94] [insane Limits] WARNING: second_check_expression is empty for Limit #1

[09:01:50 04] [insane Limits] ERROR: 1 error compiling Expression

[09:01:50 04] [insane Limits] ERROR: (CS0103, line: 27, column: 35): The name 'kill' does not exist in the current context

[09:01:55 89] [insane Limits] Compiling Limit #1 - Name1 - OnJoin

[09:01:55 96] [insane Limits] ERROR: 1 error compiling Expression

[09:01:55 96] [insane Limits] ERROR: (CS0103, line: 27, column: 35): The name 'kill' does not exist in the current context

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

We can do this with 1 slot always open then also? Perhaps this is better?

If the server is "full" it sets a variable =1 and starts to kick people

and when the server is not full it sets the variable = 0

When the users is joining and is on the reserved slot you know that the user is on the reserved slots list and when he has been logged in if the variable is 1 you can kick one person to that is "not on the reserved slot list, with the lowest score and if possible not in any squad?

Then you always keep that 1 slot open for new reserved to join?

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

But I understand how you are thinking, perhaps your way is better my way totally destroys the queue system-

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

came up with this

 

[09:01:49 94] [insane Limits] WARNING: second_check_expression is empty for Limit #1

[09:01:50 04] [insane Limits] ERROR: 1 error compiling Expression

[09:01:50 04] [insane Limits] ERROR: (CS0103, line: 27, column: 35): The name 'kill' does not exist in the current context

[09:01:55 89] [insane Limits] Compiling Limit #1 - Name1 - OnJoin

[09:01:55 96] [insane Limits] ERROR: 1 error compiling Expression

[09:01:55 96] [insane Limits] ERROR: (CS0103, line: 27, column: 35): The name 'kill' does not exist in the current context

The error messages are telling you what's wrong. You are using the wrong evaluation type.

 

Look again at the instructions for the No Snipers limit. Are you sure you have the limit configured as the instructions specify?

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

We can do this with 1 slot always open then also? Perhaps this is better?

If the server is "full" it sets a variable =1 and starts to kick people

and when the server is not full it sets the variable = 0

When the users is joining and is on the reserved slot you know that the user is on the reserved slots list and when he has been logged in if the variable is 1 you can kick one person to that is "not on the reserved slot list, with the lowest score and if possible not in any squad?

Then you always keep that 1 slot open for new reserved to join?

That would work and yes, that would destroy the queueing system for your server. Either way, a lot of players will get kicked, more than do now, because they join your server thinking it is not full.

 

So what do you think? You still want this limit code? Which way do you want it to work, with 1 slot reserved and kick active players, or 2 slots and kick new joiners only?

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

I kind do not know, I do not like to kick all people waiting, perhaps that makes more damage to the system then randomly kicking som dude.. I think it is best to leave it.... But I like the idea. I do not want you to write a code and then the other server members do not want to use it. But there are perhaps other users here that want the code? Or at least they can read about it here and have the options to have it.

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Originally Posted by Talzac*:

 

I have to ask you all the "netrual people you see" they are not in queue then? they are joining the server?

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Originally Posted by IAF-SDS*:

 

Talzac, I think this will upset many players.

 

You will end up hurting the server more than than helping it, in my opinion.