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BalanceServerSeeders (4.0.0.4 - 21-April-2014): Distribute server seeding players

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Originally Posted by Jaythegreat1*:

 

We had an issue with players being moved out of squad and even killed in action.

 

Turned off all plugins one by one and it came back to being this.

 

Even more bizzare this never really worked for us, I think it because there really wasn't a post explaining how to utilize the options for optimal or basic use.

Sounds like you have treat all players as seeders turned on. I only used the list to define seeders and haven't run into that issue. The only issues I've run into at the moment are:

 

1. Seeders are being grouped together near the end of the round.

2. Doesn't split the seeders at the beginning of the round until the timer is reached again.

 

 

What level debug do you need for this?

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

Do you have to disable idle kick for this to work? As we all know when you disable it, it makes your server custom rather than HC or normal.

Yes, you have to disable idle kick for this to work. And no, disabling idle kick does not make your server custom any more since a few server patches ago in April.
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Originally Posted by HAWKSTA24*:

 

Yes, you have to disable idle kick for this to work. And no, disabling idle kick does not make your server custom any more since a few server patches ago in April.

Dang, I didn't realize they fixed that.
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Originally Posted by HAWKSTA24*:

 

Is there a way to prevent the seeders from going into a squad automatically when a round has started? I noticed yesterday that idle seeders were put into a occupied squad. It would make more sense to me to prevent idle seeders from going into a squad so it wont take a spot that an actual player could use.

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

Is there a way to prevent the seeders from going into a squad automatically when a round has started? I noticed yesterday that idle seeders were put into a occupied squad. It would make more sense to me to prevent idle seeders from going into a squad so it wont take a spot that an actual player could use.

Seeders will be removed from any squad once the plugin detects they are idle.

 

So, if you set the amount of minutes as low as possible, like 1 minute, the seeder will automatically be removed from the squad after one minute.

 

Mind you, when you also play with that seeder, you cannot be idle more than one minute before you are moved from the squad or get balanced.

 

I've set that timer to 10 minutes for this reason.

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Originally Posted by HAWKSTA24*:

 

I was testing this plugin the other night with a full server and it didn't appear to me working. My player name is in the seeder list and I have it set to kick idle seeders after there is at least 20 players in the server and the seeders are idle for 15min. It did not kick me though. I'm using the truebalancer plugin also to keep the teams even. I do have idle kick turned off. Does it make a difference if the idle seeders are actually in the game or can they just be logged in and idle at the join screen? I also have myself and the other seeders on the balancer whitelist like you stated needing to be done on this main page. Any suggestions?

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Originally Posted by Flyswamper*:

 

Apologies for the lack of support from me. As it stands though I've give up gaming almost completely for RC plane and quad flying (complete with long range fpv gear). Having said that, the way to have a hope of getting help is to turn the debug setting on/up for the plugin and watch......record.....post here the pertinent debug messages. Those debug messages tell you what the plugin thinks it is doing.

 

 

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Originally Posted by HAWKSTA24*:

 

Can someone tell my why the members in the seeder list get admin killed right away after a new map starts? The kill does not count against them but none the less it's annoying. It only happens once and at the beginning of the round. I think the plugin is automatically assuming that the seeders are idle when they aren't.

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Originally Posted by HAWKSTA24*:

 

It says "Moving inactive seeder (player name) from squad 1 to squad 0." Now I know that once the plugin recognizes you are a seeder and you have been idle it will kill you and remove you from whatever squad you were in. My question is why would the plugin admin kill you after a minute or so of playing. the console does not really reveal any info that might help me understand why it would kill a seeder if he is wanting to play. It only does it once in the first minute or so of the round. I checked all the other plugins to see if maybe it was one of them that was causing it but it is the seeder plugin.

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Originally Posted by Flyswamper*:

 

That message that says "moving inactive seeder from squad 1 to squad 0" sounds like the right action. The plugin thinks you are inactive and if you are inactive it will move you out of a squad. In order to do so, you get killed. The solution to this is to not be detected as being inactive. If you aren't inactive you wont get moved out of a squad.

 

Check your settings on which events you have it configured to detect activity. Its been a long time since i looked at the code, but as I recall it would let you use score changes, typing something in the chat window, or spawning as events that would indicatye you arent inactive.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Flyswamper*:

 

Just restating. ... the plugin thinks you are inactive. You have to do something to show it you are not idle before the time you've configured for inactivity.

 

If you turn up the debug setting high enough it will tell you all sorts of details....even about time since each player did something indicating they are active.

 

Generally... to let the plugin know you are active you need to do one of the following:

 

1) have an increase in your score

2) type something in the chat window

3) spawn into the map

 

 

(for example: going on a cross country hike to find a good sniping position might not trigger any of these events soon enough and the plugin could think you are inactive.... you think you are playing but if you haven't cause one of the above listed events to occur... the plugin thinks you are idle and will move you out of a squad into no squad ..killing you in the process).

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Originally Posted by SKredneck*:

 

Can someone link me a page where this plugin is not kicking my seeders when its supposed to please. I have it set to kick after server reaches 20 but it never kicks us. I also added us to the whitelist on trubalancer to see if that was the problem but its still not kicking seeder from the server.

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Originally Posted by SKredneck*:

 

Turn the debug in the plugin up, temporarily shorten the time to kick so you don't have to wait 20 mins and watch/record the plugin console logs. The answer will be in those logs.

Ok. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Mamba334*:

 

Hello again out there!

 

Ok, so installed this plugin, and went through the instructed steps. It says inactive seeders online and real players online just fine. My question is: how do you get it to show 4 players in the server? Still says 0/32 and I created 4 names as seeder (one per line). I thought once enabled, I'm supposed to see 4 out of 32 in the server?

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

Hello again out there!

 

Ok, so installed this plugin, and went through the instructed steps. It says inactive seeders online and real players online just fine. My question is: how do you get it to show 4 players in the server? Still says 0/32 and I created 4 names as seeder (one per line). I thought once enabled, I'm supposed to see 4 out of 32 in the server?

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Plugin description: The intent of the plugin is to allow admins to designate specific solider accounts as "server seeders." These soldier accounts are ones that are used frequently to login to the server and just sit there idle (or AFK) in order to help get the server started (i.e. get the server fully populated). The plugin attempts to keep these pre-designated server seeding accounts evenly balanced between team 1 and team 2 so that neither team is disadvantaged by having lots more afk/idle seeders on their team.

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Originally Posted by Mamba334*:

 

Ok...? I'm confused. How will this populate if it doesn't show anyone in the server? I thought this was like if I go to BL Server Search .. I'll see 4 players (seeders)? Kinda like BF2 had the bot names to show players in the server. How will this help populate if its showing no players? I don't get this.

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Originally Posted by Mamba334*:

 

Re read the description. It does not add seeders to your server. Rather it balances the seeders you put there...hence the name BALANCEserverseeders

Thanks. I disabled it. Sorry to have bothered you.
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Originally Posted by _gp_*:

 

Re read the description. It does not add seeders to your server. Rather it balances the seeders you put there...hence the name BALANCEserverseeders

Flyswamper,

 

good to see you again..

 

feel up to coding seeders for SQDM ?

with 2 options when if it is a SQDM map...

Option 1 would be to balance idlers across all 4 teams...

Option 2 would be to put all idlers onto team 4 (Delta)...

 

_gp?

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