MULTIbalancer [1.1.6.0] 30-MAR-2015 + BFHL

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Does Battlelog fetching work? So i can set the setting "Determine Strong Players by": to BattlelogKDR or BattlelogSPM?

 

Thanks and Greez

It depends on what you mean by "working". The code is in place and works for me. Some people are having network problems that cause battlelog fetches to fail.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

I will do my best to see if i can get you some logs, but you should know we run procon on our own private server in a DC, on all gigabit connections, with no limits. I'm not really thinking its network related at all.

It might not be on your end, it could be on the Battlelog end. It wouldn't be the first time, the same thing happened for BF3.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

hi pc9, is there any chance for the scrambler to keep players on the squad when scrambled? I mean some of the scrambled players are placed on a different squads. I want em to populate squads that are not full before it creates a new squad.

Same exact problem I get...

And you've both read the FAQ, right, which explains why the "Scrambler doesn't seem to work"? No? Well, do yourself a favor and check it out:

 

showthread....d-explanations*

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Can you enter percentages instead of numbers as values for things. and can the server size be variable if used along with adaptive server size plugin?

 

what I was thinking would be nice to do :

 

 

in the settings for the map modes ex:

conquest Large: Max Players variable from adaptive server size

 

conquest Large: Definition Of high Population for Players 80%

conquest Large: Definition Of low Population for Players 25%

 

 

same could be done with other settings as a percentage

Theoretically some things could be percentages, but I decided against that. Instead, I let the Wizard apply a percentage to the number you specify for Max Players and have the best of both worlds.

 

Adaptive server size doesn't have any impact on MULTIbalancer. All it cares about is the MAXIMUM number of players, that is, the largest size the server or mode can be. A server with 8 players in it is low population, regardless of what Adaptive Server Size does.

 

Adaptive ticket size DOES have an impact on MULTIbalancer. Is that what you meant? ATS can screw up MB's phase calculations. The balancer might flip-flop between thinking its early, mid or late phase, depending on what ATS does. Percentages wouldn't help, since the maximum would keep changing.

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Originally Posted by Moli87*:

 

Ok Thanks i tested it with the command test f4 playername and it looks like its working for me.

 

But on the Settings "Which Battlelog Stats" I had before ClanTagOnly and set it now to ALLTime is that right for BattlelogSPM?

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Ok Thanks i tested it with the command test f4 playername and it looks like its working for me.

 

But on the Settings "Which Battlelog Stats" I had before ClanTagOnly and set it now to ALLTime is that right for BattlelogSPM?

Yes. You can also set it to Reset in case stats resetting gets enabled for BF4.

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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

PC regarding post #1200, I got ya, I'll retain "Intensify" but turn off unstacking. Thank you for your time and patience, I'll report back with results and those logs.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

PC regarding post #1200, I got ya, I'll retain "Intensify" but turn off unstacking. Thank you for your time and patience, I'll report back with results and those logs.

You should still fix the two "errors" in your settings.

 

Change to ClanTagOnly and change Percent of Top of Team Is Strong to 40.

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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

You should still fix the two "errors" in your settings.

 

Change to ClanTagOnly and change Percent of Top of Team Is Strong to 40.

Yep did that and turned off unstacking and also debug set at 7 now.

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Originally Posted by anditfeels*:

 

Don't put anything in the Friends List, that won't help you with the Whitelist and actually makes things worse.

 

Type bad tags into Show In Log and copy/paste the result from the plugin setting window at the bottom. If you don't get any results, enable Plugin Logging in the Tools -> Options of Procon then type the command.

When I typed bad tags into Show Command in log (couldn't find just Show in log), so I was receiving a message:

Code:

[00:16:54 63] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [Show In Log] Command: bad tags
[00:16:54 63] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [Show In Log] No clan tag fetch failures to report

Should I do something else?

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

When I typed bad tags into Show Command in log (couldn't find just Show in log), so I was receiving a message:

Code:

[00:16:54 63] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [Show In Log] Command: bad tags
[00:16:54 63] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [Show In Log] No clan tag fetch failures to report

Should I do something else?

Nope, should work now.

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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

PC, I've got my scramble time set at 49 secs from this avg:

 

[03:35:29]:3 Between round seconds = 65, average of 24 rounds = 64.5

 

does that sound about right? 49-54

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

PC, I've got my scramble time set at 49 secs from this avg:

 

[03:35:29]:3 Between round seconds = 65, average of 24 rounds = 64.5

 

does that sound about right? 49-54

A bit low, you should end up with something between 50 and 60.

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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

A bit low, you should end up with something between 50 and 60.

Right so with my range above, more towards the 54? I will say I've monitored my avgs and they never change, always about 65.

 

Also what does this mean?

 

[13:01:31 37] [MULTIbalancer]:7 Got OnResponseError, Request(admin.say, NH4ME, Missing ping, all): ERROR = InvalidArguments

[13:01:31 50] [MULTIbalancer]:7 Got OnResponseError, Request(admin.say, CaribouGhettoz, Missing ping, all): ERROR = InvalidArguments

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Originally Posted by thowle*:

 

Anyone have an issue where this plugin seems to work good for quite a while, then all of a sudden it doesn't work? If you uncheck it (unload) in ProCon, then check (reload), it will work again.

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Originally Posted by Roughneck2-0*:

 

Percent of Top of Team Is Strong should be 40. (Where did 16 come from? No wonder top scorers were complaining about getting switched, 16 says that the entire pool of players available for moving is only the top 16% of each team!)

Hello PapaCharlie9.

That would probably be my recommendation to him, shown here*.

I'd like to understand something regarding these settings please, It'll help me validate my game-servers' MULTIbalancer configuration.

1. If jking54 * wants to spare the top 5 scorers of each team from Balancing/Scrambling/Unstacking, then setting:

[2. Exclusions]

Top Scorers

to

True

[8. Setting for Game-Mode]

Team Is Strong

to:

16 - On a 64-slots, fully populated game-server.
21 - On a 48-slots, fully populated game-server.
32 - On a 32-slots, fully populated game-server.

[8. Setting for Game-Mode]

Only Move Weak Players

to

True

enables just that, doesn't it?


2. Or, does Top Scorers automatically exclude an additional 1-3 players on top of those already derived by Team Is Strong?


3. I saw that in the screenshot he attached for you here* he set his Only Move Weak Players to False, but I think it's the opposite of what he wants. Not sure though.


Many thanks in advance for your time clarifying this! Edited August 8, 2019 by maxdralle

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Originally Posted by anditfeels*:

 

Nope, should work now.

What you mean? What should work? The balancer is still moving our members.

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Originally Posted by FLirtY-3D*:

 

PapaCharlie9 ... what would be good settings for a 1000 tickets on rush metro 64 player be.... ?

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Right so with my range above, more towards the 54? I will say I've monitored my avgs and they never change, always about 65.

The plugin needs 10 to 15 seconds to do it's work, so you you backtrack from 65 and you get 50 to 55.

 

You should really try to read all the FAQs and docs, since I'm repeating stuff that's written down.

 

Also what does this mean?

 

[13:01:31 37] [MULTIbalancer]:7 Got OnResponseError, Request(admin.say, NH4ME, Missing ping, all): ERROR = InvalidArguments

[13:01:31 50] [MULTIbalancer]:7 Got OnResponseError, Request(admin.say, CaribouGhettoz, Missing ping, all): ERROR = InvalidArguments

Some other plugin, maybe Latency Manager or something having to do with ping checking, is issuing an incorrect RCON command for BF4. MULTIbalancer reports ALL RCON errors, from all plugins, at Debug Level 7. There's no way to tell where they come from, so you see all of them.

 

If you find the culprit, the problem is that they are trying to send chat to a specific player, but they are using this format:

 

admin.say NH4ME "Missing ping" all

 

when it should be:

 

admin.say "Missing ping" player NH4ME

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Hello PapaCharlie9.

That would probably be my recommendation to him, shown here*.

I'd like to understand something regarding these settings please, It'll help me validate my game-servers' MULTIbalancer configuration.

1. If jking54 * wants to spare the top 5 scorers of each team from Balancing/Scrambling/Unstacking, then setting:

[2. Exclusions]

Top Scorers

to

True

[8. Setting for Game-Mode]

Team Is Strong

to:

16 - On a 64-slots, fully populated game-server.
21 - On a 48-slots, fully populated game-server.
32 - On a 32-slots, fully populated game-server.

[8. Setting for Game-Mode]

Only Move Weak Players

to

True

enables just that, doesn't it?


2. Or, does Top Scorers automatically exclude an additional 1-3 players on top of those already derived by Team Is Strong?


3. I saw that in the screenshot he attached for you here* he set his Only Move Weak Players to False, but I think it's the opposite of what he wants. Not sure though.


Many thanks in advance for your time clarifying this!

Yes, you are the culprit! Top Scorers is independent of determination of Strong. It's just the top 1, 2 or 3 players of each team with top scores, period.

Your method could work and it is crucial to set Only Move Weak Players to True, but it distorts all of the rest of the workings of the balancer that require strong players, like unstacking or scrambling. It's only useful for balancing. Edited August 8, 2019 by maxdralle

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

What you mean? What should work? The balancer is still moving our members.

Are you sure your Whitelist is correct and that you have enabled On Whitelist?

 

When you are in a round with several of your members, type tags into Show Command In Log. You should see all of your clan members under your tag name. If you don't, something else is wrong.

 

Also, you can type lists and whitelist into Show Command In Log.

 

Post the results of all three commands as a reply in this thread.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

PapaCharlie9 ... what would be good settings for a 1000 tickets on rush metro 64 player be.... ?

What do you consider "good"? Like post #1 says, you have to think about what style of play you want MB to support: minimize complaints? intensify games and have close endings? scrambling?

 

Read the FAQ Getting Started: How to do your first setup and give that a try first. Your situation is a bit unusual, in that it is high tickets, Rush and Metro, all special cases for MB. Nevertheless, the Settings Wizard should give you a start.

 

For now, disable Unstacking and ignore the unstacking adjustments in the per-Mode Rush settings.

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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

The plugin needs 10 to 15 seconds to do it's work, so you you backtrack from 65 and you get 50 to 55.

 

You should really try to read all the FAQs and docs, since I'm repeating stuff that's written down.

 

 

Some other plugin, maybe Latency Manager or something having to do with ping checking, is issuing an incorrect RCON command for BF4. MULTIbalancer reports ALL RCON errors, from all plugins, at Debug Level 7. There's no way to tell where they come from, so you see all of them.

 

If you find the culprit, the problem is that they are trying to send chat to a specific player, but they are using this format:

 

admin.say NH4ME "Missing ping" all

 

when it should be:

 

admin.say "Missing ping" player NH4ME

PC, my avg was around 64.5 for the most part but after further testing is at 65 now and from your post #1031* you suggest 15-20 seconds so hence why I was mentioning 45-50 give or take. Now you say 10-15 which is of course as you say now is 50-55, so is it now 10-15 or 15-20, I'm going to guess it's 15? or 50 as I have it set now currently.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

PC, my avg was around 64.5 for the most part but after further testing is at 65 now and from your post #1031* you suggest 15-20 seconds so hence why I was mentioning 45-50 give or take. Now you say 10-15 which is of course as you say now is 50-55, so is it now 10-15 or 15-20, I'm going to guess it's 15? or 50 as I have it set now currently.

Oops, my bad. You gave me the link.

 

It should be 10-15, not 15-20. I'll fix that post.

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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

Oops, my bad. You gave me the link.

 

It should be 10-15, not 15-20. I'll fix that post.

TY, no worries and appreciate your time.

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Originally Posted by FLirtY-3D*:

 

What do you consider "good"? Like post #1 says, you have to think about what style of play you want MB to support: minimize complaints? intensify games and have close endings? scrambling?

 

Read the FAQ Getting Started: How to do your first setup and give that a try first. Your situation is a bit unusual, in that it is high tickets, Rush and Metro, all special cases for MB. Nevertheless, the Settings Wizard should give you a start.

For now, disable Unstacking and ignore the unstacking adjustments in the per-Mode Rush settings.

Thankyou for the tip .. i have set it up good seems to be doing a great job on how i want it to unstack... great work

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Originally Posted by XSGamers*:

 

Papa, with Balance Only (so we keep the teams level in numbers) how long does it take to start moving people?

 

The plugin is working fine for us and helping keep things balanced, just wondered what the time was

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Originally Posted by rbtmarshall*:

 

Theoretically some things could be percentages, but I decided against that. Instead, I let the Wizard apply a percentage to the number you specify for Max Players and have the best of both worlds.

 

Adaptive server size doesn't have any impact on MULTIbalancer. All it cares about is the MAXIMUM number of players, that is, the largest size the server or mode can be. A server with 8 players in it is low population, regardless of what Adaptive Server Size does.

 

Adaptive ticket size DOES have an impact on MULTIbalancer. Is that what you meant? ATS can screw up MB's phase calculations. The balancer might flip-flop between thinking its early, mid or late phase, depending on what ATS does. Percentages wouldn't help, since the maximum would keep changing.

Thanks for the reply. there does seem to be quite a few ways to tweak setting with the options you already have in the plugin. I'll adjust the low pop ticket settings and monitor. Thats the inly issue im running into. unstack not kicking in low population.

 

But, rather than do it that way first, I was curious if it could be set as a percentage of the max adaptive server size. That way it would still use the medium and high settings when there miht be 8 players and adaptive server is showing it is a 16 player server

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Papa, with Balance Only (so we keep the teams level in numbers) how long does it take to start moving people?

 

The plugin is working fine for us and helping keep things balanced, just wondered what the time was

The balancer is always on, so 0 seconds. That said, the balancer only moves players who are dead and haven't spawned yet, so if no one dies, that could cause a delay. A more likely cause of delay is that everyone who is dying is exempted or excluded for some reason: moved recently, only weak players being moved and they are strong, clan tags, whitelist, new players are in the queue waiting to join (MB always favors balancing with new players rather than moving existing players, but that takes time), etc.

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Originally Posted by xxxSLUGxxx*:

 

hello guys first time to the forums, i recently put this plugin on the server and was wondering if u guys could post a config for me that would be great

 

looking for 64 man with 800 tickets

something when people leave it will balance quick, not worried about the unstacking as much, just seems like it takes way to long to balance or for it to kick in, we have the clan on the whitelist and thats pretty much it, just want the balancing to happen quicker and some of the settings just need tweaked and u post 1 for me Papa and ty for your time