TrueBalancer [v0.7.6] (28 Oct 2010)

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Originally Posted by Jaythegreat1*:

 

So for the whitelist, do we just add the alias, or the clan tag and the alias?

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

only the Soldiername without clantag

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Originally Posted by Jaythegreat1*:

 

Okay.. cause i added guys without the tags but they are still getting switched. This only becomes a problem when i have multiple guys idling in the server.

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

please cheak the debugger.

in the player cach infront of their name there has to stand:

x.-1-NAME

x is eather 1 or 2 (which doesn't matther for your problem)

but infront of their name has to be the "-1". Which means this player is on the whitelist. If not, you misstyped the soldiername.

If there is a "-1" infront of their name, they shouldn't be balanced by my balancer.

But the ingame balancer will move them if it is set to "ON".

 

 

 

you also need to enter one name per line.

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Originally Posted by Jaythegreat1*:

 

Ohh... damn.. well.. I guess no one will be safe then, cause both of our servers are Normal atm, and turning the ab will cause it to go modified I believe.

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

yeah the ingame AB will still do its work.

My autobalancer will tell only once, that if there are only VIPs on one side, that you should autobalance manually.

but the AB from DICE will move the players =(.

 

i'm going to check, if turning AB "off" will set the server modified.

 

EDIT: Turning the ingame AutoBalancer "off" will NOT set the serveras "modified".

But i will not recommend that because if the teams are balanced, a person will be able to switch to the other side, unbalancing the teams. (eg: if the teams are 10vs10 -> one will be able to switch to the other side making it 9vs11)

This is at the moment the only reason, why i am keeping the ingame AB on.

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Originally Posted by Jaythegreat1*:

 

Hmmm... not sure if this was a fluke, but I think the auto-balance broke the server tonight. Running 6.5 at the moment, do I need to upgrade to 6.6 to prevent this?

 

[01:09:25] xXCertainXx - Attackers > wtf

[01:09:30] xXCertainXx - Attackers > is wrong with a zone

[01:10:02] mrmartyr > ok wtf why cant we spawn

[01:10:11] warren. T > idk

[01:10:14] xXCertainXx - Attackers > what the hell

[01:10:14] warren. T > cant spawn.

[01:10:15] POWERPLAYER22 > fucking mortars

[01:10:20] xXCertainXx - Attackers > can't sapwn

[01:10:23] QC Peter. has left the server..

[01:10:27] dasgunther - Attackers > who got the tank stuck

[01:10:28] POWERPLAYER22 > me to

[01:10:40] warren. T > they fucked up the heli

[01:10:50] bloodthorn1 has joined the server..

[01:10:58] mrmartyr has left the server..

[01:11:00] warren. T - Attackers > now i cant spawn .. after the heli crash ?

[01:11:01] xXCertainXx has left the server..

[01:11:15] mrmartyr has joined the server..

[01:11:18] [P-Niz] Chip12 has left the server..

[01:11:24] FroDaddy327 has left the server..

[01:11:25] DrLobsterFace has joined the server..

[01:11:26] kchiefs78 has joined the server..

[01:11:41] dasgunther - Attackers > did the round end

[01:11:43] Planeman has left the server..

[01:11:44] dasgunther - Attackers > or am i bugged

[01:11:48] dasgunther - Attackers > unable to spawn

[01:11:55] POWERPLAYER22 > wtf

[01:11:57] 4n fighter > cant spawn either

[01:12:02] warren. T has left the server..

[01:12:03] Warkore > glitch

[01:12:11] mrmartyr > server is bugged, i just left and re-entered and still cant spawn

[01:12:15] -=ABS=- kchiefs78 has left the server..

[01:12:20] Joelskip > lol

[01:12:21] Sniperdallas has left the server..

[01:12:21] JamiroDELTAFORCE has joined the server..

[01:12:23] dasgunther > theres 2 guys left alive in our spawn

[01:12:25] mrmartyr > any admins here?

[01:12:25] bloodthorn1 has left the server..

[01:12:25] DrLobsterFace has left the server..

[01:12:28] TGA Ameru has left the server..

[01:12:35] dasgunther > 1 guy left in our spawn

[01:12:47] mrmartyr has left the server..

[01:12:55] Signer > we broke the game.

[01:13:01] dasgunther > better up it ends the game kids

[01:13:01] POWERPLAYER22 has left the server..

[01:13:02] Gorzo the Mighty > way to go signer

[01:13:04] dasgunther > hope

[01:13:21] -[PoD]- Silencer777 has left the server..

[01:13:32] Mikedrick - Defenders > behind hill

[01:13:35] DF Gen_Failure has left the server..

[01:13:46] DoubleOBond has left the server..

[01:13:50] mbry 4n fighter has left the server..

[01:13:52] Joelskip - Attackers > this sucks

[01:13:54] Ybivca has left the server..

[01:13:54] Signer > now what?

[01:13:55] AlexNY has left the server..

[01:14:00] dasgunther > nobody left alive

[01:14:02] Gen_Failure has joined the server..

[01:14:03] Joelskip > look at porn?

[01:14:07] 4n fighter has joined the server..

[01:14:09] Spy9107 > too many boobies and beer

[01:14:10] dasgunther > new server or wait for an admin

[01:14:11] Warkore > agreed

[01:14:27] Joelskip > cya

[01:14:29] Spy9107 > it doesnt even show a spawn point

[01:14:30] DF Gen_Failure has left the server..

[01:14:31] Joelskip has left the server..

[01:14:32] JamiroDELTAFORCE has left the server..

[01:14:37] Mikedrick > peace sucks

[01:14:46] Warkore > if y'all didnt suck so bad . . . .

[01:14:46] mbry 4n fighter has left the server..

[01:14:47] RZR Opii has left the server..

[01:14:50] Mikedrick > i mean peace out... this sucks

[01:14:51] dasgunther > pretty sure i won

[01:15:02] Mikedrick has left the server..

[01:15:11] dasgunther has left the server..

[01:15:22] Spy9107 > you guys cant win

[01:15:25] Warkore > so being balanced means killed and re-programmed to the other team

[01:15:28] [C18] Revixx has left the server..

[01:15:30] Warkore > awesome lol

[01:15:35] [C18] Schnell34 has left the server..

[01:15:35] [C-18] Duxlol has left the server..

[01:15:35] CaptainMoustache has left the server..

[01:15:38] tve055 has left the server..

[01:15:52] Gorzo the Mighty has left the server..

[01:15:53] Warkore has left the server..

[01:16:07] Signer > lol who's here the longest?

[01:16:16] PandaKiller22 > i think i am

[01:16:18] g22of has left the server..

[01:16:19] IA-Acid_Wolf > donno lol

[01:16:42] JamiroDELTAFORCE has joined the server..

[01:16:52] Spy9107 > come on over pandakiller

[01:17:07] -=CP=-Khaki has joined the server..

[01:17:23] Spy9107 > well ill see you guys

[01:17:26] Mbry Spy9107 has left the server..

[01:17:35] JamiroDELTAFORCE has left the server..

[01:17:37] PandaKiller22 > lol i cant enter battle when im on this team

[01:18:05] Signer > we broke it by spawn camping.

[01:18:15] PandaKiller22 has left the server..

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

no, the truebalancer wouldn't do such a strange thing. i realy need the debug message of the autobalancer but i am 100% sure that this is some kind of game bug.

They are not complaining that the teams are getting unbalanced by the autobalancer, they are complaining that they can't spawn and there is no way, that in procon you can program such a thing.

 

such things wouldn't be able to be done by the truebalancer:

[01:12:11] mrmartyr > server is bugged, i just left and re-entered and still cant spawn

[01:14:29] Spy9107 > it doesnt even show a spawn point

 

noone of them complained that they got balanced or anything.

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Originally Posted by Jaythegreat1*:

 

Could've been.. but just from some of that chat log some people were switched and then they couldn't spawn. I only thought it could have happened becuase Magnets AB did this as well.

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

did the server crash before?

i don't thinks so because it looks like the server was full.

 

the autobalancer kicked in because all the player from the bugged side started leaving.

i take the onListplayer which is a backup of the players and check it with my cache to be 100% safe.

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Originally Posted by powerbits*:

 

nice plugin, any chance for a whitelist?

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

whitelist allready integrated

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Originally Posted by powerbits*:

 

i did not see any options for that?

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

After the last update of Procon the plugin seems not to be working anymore.

I only get this message:

 

[22:42:38 03] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[22:42:39 21] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported.(plyLeft)

[22:42:41 16] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[23:00:15 25] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[23:00:21 41] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[23:00:29 99] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported.(plyLeft)

 

In debugmode it says:

[23:25:15 25] Team A: 5

[23:25:15 25] Team B: 3

[23:25:15 25] PlayerDiff: 2

[23:25:15 25] NeedBalance = true

 

But nothing happens... No player is balanced.

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Originally Posted by powerbits*:

 

got the options tx!

 

COuld the balancer also keep one clan fixed to one side?

 

Say 2 clanmates are coming in on attackers and another one on defender. could truebalancer switch the one on defender to the others on attacker and ofcourse balance the visitors?

 

That would be great if it could work with the whitelist

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

got the options tx!

 

COuld the balancer also keep one clan fixed to one side?

 

Say 2 clanmates are coming in on attackers and another one on defender. could truebalancer switch the one on defender to the others on attacker and ofcourse balance the visitors?

 

That would be great if it could work with the whitelist

this is not planed for true balancer but i will put it on the to do list, if this is what the community would like. i haven't done it till now, because i think, that if to much clanmembers play on the same side, the server will be unbalanced.

 

at the moment the only thing that the whitelist does, is keeping this persons from being autobalanced. but i will try to implement your wish in a future release.

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

hi,

 

After the last update of Procon the plugin seems not to be working anymore.

I only get this message:

 

[22:42:38 03] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[22:42:39 21] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported.(plyLeft)

[22:42:41 16] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[23:00:15 25] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[23:00:21 41] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[23:00:29 99] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported.(plyLeft)

this is ok. as you can see, this happens only at the start of a map/round until procon recieves the first data. if the map/round is rush or conquest. This is complettely fine.

 

In debugmode it says:

[23:25:15 25] Team A: 5

[23:25:15 25] Team B: 3

[23:25:15 25] PlayerDiff: 2

[23:25:15 25] NeedBalance = true

 

But nothing happens... No player is balanced.

i need your settings of trueblaancer to comment this. are all of these 5 players from Team A on the whitelist?

Just this 4 lines will not help me to figure out what is going on, i would need some more lines.

What is the max number of players allowed for the teams to differ?

NeedBalance just tells the programm that the playerdiffrence is bigger than 2.

if you did set that the playerdiffrence of 2 is allowed, then autobalancer will start balacing if the playerdiffrence is 3 or more.

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Originally Posted by powerbits*:

 

got the options tx!

 

COuld the balancer also keep one clan fixed to one side?

 

Say 2 clanmates are coming in on attackers and another one on defender. could truebalancer switch the one on defender to the others on attacker and ofcourse balance the visitors?

 

That would be great if it could work with the whitelist

this is not planed for true balancer but i will put it on the to do list, if this is what the community would like. i haven't done it till now, because i think, that if to much clanmembers play on the same side, the server will be unbalanced.

 

at the moment the only thing that the whitelist does, is keeping this persons from being autobalanced. but i will try to implement your wish in a future release.

No wat i would suggest he does only put the clan or people on one side that are one the whitelist.

ATM he will not switch them but if he would make sure they are on the same team thats great and he does wat he sees fit with the other clans/visitors. This way he should be able to still balance everything

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

yes i do understand what you mean, but the teams would be unfair, even if they are balanced 16vs16. If there are 10 Clanmembers in one of the teams, the other team ussualy doesn't have a chance.

but i will think about this option and the best way to implement it.

for the moment all players on the whitelist can be switched by the admin manualy and they will stay on the other side, not touched by truebalancer.

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

i need your settings of trueblaancer to comment this. are all of these 5 players from Team A on the whitelist?

Just this 4 lines will not help me to figure out what is going on, i would need some more lines.

What is the max number of players allowed for the teams to differ?

NeedBalance just tells the programm that the playerdiffrence is bigger than 2.

if you did set that the playerdiffrence of 2 is allowed, then autobalancer will start balacing if the playerdiffrence is 3 or more.

None of the players were in the whitelist.

Max playerdifference is set to 1.

Checks every 10 secs

Warnings: 2

 

I Will doublecheck tonight. Maybe it was just a spontaneous 'hickup'

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Originally Posted by powerbits*:

 

yes i do understand what you mean, but the teams would be unfair, even if they are balanced 16vs16. If there are 10 Clanmembers in one of the teams, the other team ussualy doesn't have a chance.

but i will think about this option and the best way to implement it.

for the moment all players on the whitelist can be switched by the admin manualy and they will stay on the other side, not touched by truebalancer.

We already do this manually.. Its afterall the server of the clan, so we like to fight together, i am very sure other server admins would want this

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Originally Posted by SinBad-OTF*:

 

Installed OK but is giving some error messages after running for a while.

 

[20:38:15 43] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[20:38:15 94] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported.(plyLeft)

[20:38:25 80] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported.(plyLeft)

[20:38:25 85] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[22:08:54 79] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[22:18:15 54] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

[22:18:21 04] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported.(plyLeft)

[22:18:21 12] TrueBalancer: Still no data or GameMode not supported. (OP)

 

I see this in in the box below the plug-ins. We are running a RUSH server.

 

Not sure yet if it is affecting the team balancing yet.

 

//SinBad

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

This is totaly fine. As you can see, this appears only at the beginning of a round. If this message would apear all the time every 10-30 seconds, than there would be a problem. But this message appears only at the beginning of a round and this is totaly fine.

 

It is checking, if the new map is a conquest or rush map.

It takes the first 10-30 seconds at the beginning of a round, until procon gets the information if the new map is rush or conquest.

 

TrueBalancer should work fine on your rush.

I have it running since 3 weeks now and no problems so far.

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Originally Posted by SinBad-OTF*:

 

Thanks for the reply Panther and it does seem t be running well.. No issues noted except those innocuous errors messages.

 

//SinBad

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

I'm on hollidays at the moment, but i will change the code as fast as i am home to avoid such missunderstandings.

 

Panda

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Originally Posted by powerbits*:

 

I'm on hollidays at the moment, but i will change the code as fast as i am home to avoid such missunderstandings.

 

Panda

And please check if you can switch the people on the whitelist on one team

 

or at least add that option

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Originally Posted by S-YMBI0N-T*:

 

Are there any plans to implement *Rank Balancing* into your most excellent PlugIn?

 

I have searched the boards for anyone who has made anything close, but have not found any. I know i am not the only player with the wish of having (as close to humanly possible) Teams with a fair balance of Ranked Players. Nothing spells *FAIL ROUND* more than one team with 40's & higher ... and the other team with 20's & lower. I think if anyone were to make this type of PlugIn, it would make the most sense to add it as a feature in yours.

 

Thanks in advance for any reply, and thank you for taking the time to make a very useful piece of software =)

 

~SYM

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

Hi,

i have alot of requests about this.

There are 2 major problems about RankBalancing in this game.

1. You cant balance any full rush server. You cannot switch a player to the other team making team 17vs15, because dice made a playercap to both teams of 16 making TeamBalance to a full server impossible.

 

2. There is no way to get the serverranks out of procon or the game. I will have to check if it is possible to use one of the plugins, which uses bfbcs.com to get the ranks.

 

I had a talk with the programmer of the "PlayerStats" plugin where we will maybe combine our two plugins and my plugin using his K/D, SPM and other stats to balance the teams.

 

But this will take some time. I'm also in contact with dice-devs to ask them, to make the player cap 17 to both teams, to make teambalancing or at least teamscramble again possible.

 

I will update here as soon as i get any news about this.

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Originally Posted by S-YMBI0N-T*:

 

Thank you very much for the reply and the very informative info. I will check back often to see if there is any progress. Good luck on contacting DICE ... and thanks again for an awesome tool.

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Originally Posted by P0k3r_OF_Sm0t*:

 

Thanks for the awesome plugin too!

Ever since enabling this plugin, our server has not dropped below 15 players over the past 24 hours!

Where as before installing it, it wouldn't last more than a 1/2 hour after we went to bed before the teams became uneven and the server would die!

Now it stays nice and balanced and nice and full!