ProconRulz - take admin action on triggers, e.g. weapon limit

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Originally Posted by Blackhand-Bonehead*:

 

ProconRulz - 37.1.27c

 

#======Admin Anounce=====

On Join;Admin;Yell Admin %p% joining...

 

#=====TANK RULZ=====

On Kill;Not Admins;Damage VehicleHeavy;Count 6;Ban %p% Banned for repeated Tank killing

On Kill;Damage VehicleHeavy;Teamsize 6;Count 3;Log %p% kicked for tank kills;Kick kicked for repeated Tank killing

On Kill;Damage VehicleHeavy;Teamsize 5;Yell No Tank Until Sides Are 6 v 6;Kill

 

#=====AIR RULZ=====

On Kill;Not Admins;Damage VehicleAir;Count 6;Ban %p% Banned for repeated Helicopter killing

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Teamsize 5;Count 3;Log %p% kicked for Helicopters kills;Kick kicked for repeated Helicopter killing

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Teamsize 5;Yell No Helicopters Until Sides Are 6 v 6;Kill

 

#===== Limit Vehiclekills=====

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 40 1200;Say %p% no more chopper kills for you!;Kill

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 38 1200;Say %p% you will get punished if you dont leave the chopper!

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 36 1200;Say %p% Let someone else get the chopper!

 

 

 

#=====TEAMKILL RULZ=====

On TeamKill;Not Admins;Count 6;Ban %p% Banned for teamkilling

On Teamkill;Count 3;Say >>%p%

On TeamKill;Weapon DEFIB;Say >>%p%

On Teamkill;Damage SniperRifle;Say >>%p%

On Teamkill;Yell >>%p%

 

#=====SNIPER RULZ=====

 

#===== LIMIT SNIPERS WHEN SMALL TEAMS=====

 

On Spawn;Teamsize 10;Kit Recon 4;PlayerSay >>%p%

 

# =====NO KILLS BY NON SNIPER KITS=====

 

# Reason prevents WeaponLimiter workaround)

 

On Kill;Damage SniperRifle;Not Kit Recon;Say >>%p%

 

I have tried everything I can and still they wont work can anybody please help. My Clan are going nuts that we can not control players when admins are not on server.

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Originally Posted by bambam*:

 

I'll step through these rulz and let you know if I find anything. In the meantime can you clarify "nothing seems to trigger" what do you mean by "nothing" - you mean the chat log never has anything from ProconRulz at all? E.g. not even the "On Join" trigger gets fired?

 

Can you give a scenario that you want to work but does not work with these rulz? E.g. "players can spawn on empty server and pick up sniper kit" can't be possible because an empty server won't have sniper kits lying around on the ground. You want to prevent players *spawning* as Recon if teams are below a certain size ?

 

How many Recons do you want to allow?

 

E.g. If team has 10 or fewer players, you want zero recons, and if team is bigger than 10 players you'll allow 2 recons per team ? That would be

 

On Spawn;Teamsize 10;Kit Recon;PlayerSay %p% sniper limit (small teams no snipers); Kill

On Spawn;Kit Recon 2;PlayerSay %p% sniper limit (full server max 2 snipers);Kill

 

Let's fix snipers first and then worry about vehicles

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Originally Posted by Blackhand-Bonehead*:

 

Right here goes. At moment procon seems to be logging in chat and events but it's not stopping players using the things we don't want. Right to start with Snipers we want NO sniper until sides are 10 v 10 then a limit of 4 per side a total of 8 snipers on server max.

 

Tanks & Choppers same no use until 6 a side kill if you do. When no Admins on servers kick at 3 kills with warning and at 6 kill Temp ban say 48hrs.

 

New rule I saw with chopper kills I would like to limit kills to say 30 and then kill from then stop chopper whores spoiling it for other players.

 

#===== Limit Vehiclekills=====

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 40 1200;Say %p% no more chopper kills for you!;Kill

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 38 1200;Say %p% you will get punished if you dont leave the chopper!

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 36 1200;Say %p% Let someone else get the chopper!

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Originally Posted by Bertsinbad*:

 

bambam im trying to work something out;

 

how do I add two rates together ie the two rules below

on kill; rate 4 60;log extra fishy

on say;text fish; rate 2 60;warn fishy

 

to combine them into a rule that triggers when someone is getting 4 kills in a minute AND saying fish twice;

something like

on kill; rate 4 60; on say;text fish; rate 2 60;kick

 

cant get my head round it... is it possible to make the second trigger a condition?

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Originally Posted by bambam*:

 

@Bert - nope - no way you can combine different *triggers* into the same rule. For simplicity of the rulz I just never considered that case. I do know how I would implement that kind of 'memory' from one rule to the next (i.e. you'd still have separate On Kill and On Say rulz) but I haven't put that into the current version of ProconRulz. The development for the next month will be new triggers for new events in BF3, so don't hold your breath.

 

@Bonehead: (suggested rulz in green - I haven't tested them)

 

Right here goes. At moment procon seems to be logging in chat and events but it's not stopping players using the things we don't want. Right to start with Snipers we want NO sniper until sides are 10 v 10 then a limit of 4 per side a total of 8 snipers on server max.

On Spawn;Teamsize 9;Kit Recon;PlayerSay %p% no snipers until 10 players per side;Kill

On Spawn;Kit Recon 4;PlayerSay %p% 4 snipers per team max on full server;Kill

On Kill;Damage SniperRifle;Not Kit Recon;PlayerSay %k% %p% no sniper rifle pickup;Kill

 

Tanks & Choppers same no use until 6 a side kill if you do. When no Admins on servers kick at 3 kills with warning and at 6 kill Temp ban say 48hrs.

On Kill;Teamsize 5;Damage VehicleHeavy;Not Admins;Count 6;TempBan 172800 48hour ban %p% tank kills

On Kill;Teamsize 5;Damage VehicleHeavy;Not Admins;Count 3;Kick %p% no tank kills team less than 6

On Kill;Teamsize 5;Damage VehicleHeavy;PlayerSay %p% no tank kills team less than 6;Kill

 

On Kill;Teamsize 5;Damage VehicleAir;Not Admins;Count 6;TempBan 172800 48hour ban %p% chopper kills

On Kill;Teamsize 5;Damage VehicleAir;Not Admins;Count 3;Kick %p% no chopper kills team less than 6

On Kill;Teamsize 5;Damage VehicleAir;PlayerSay %p% no chopper kills when team size less than 6;Kill

 

New rule I saw with chopper kills I would like to limit kills to say 30 and then kill from then stop chopper whores spoiling it for other players.

Your rulz below look ok to me, if that's what you want. I changed them to PlayerSay but that's all. Warning at 36 kills in 20 minutes, kills above 40 per 20 mins become suicidal.

 

#===== Limit Vehiclekills=====

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 40 1200;PlayerSay %p% no more chopper kills for you!;Kill

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 38 1200;PlayerSay %p% you will get punished if you dont leave the chopper!

On Kill;Damage VehicleAir;Rate 36 1200;PlayerSay %p% Let someone else get the chopper!

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Originally Posted by Blackhand-Bonehead*:

 

Cheers for the help! I will give them a try.

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Originally Posted by Bertsinbad*:

 

thanks bambam

figured it wasnt possible but I thought i would ask to see if i was missing something

no to worried about it anyway, I gotta think about BF3 servers myself

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Originally Posted by hadlock*:

 

Could we get functionality to echo a user's ping in server chat/admin say?

 

I'd like to be able to write a rule (looking forward to BF3 functionality) where the user could say

 

"!ping me" or "!ping UserName"

 

and the server would respond "UserName Ping 79ms. Team average Ping 84ms" or something.

 

Right now BF3 isn't going to have client side ping available, and this is a lot cleaner than giving 200 users procon admin...

 

Thanks for your consideration!

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Originally Posted by Ike*:

 

Could we get functionality to echo a user's ping in server chat/admin say?

 

I'd like to be able to write a rule (looking forward to BF3 functionality) where the user could say

 

"!ping me" or "!ping UserName"

 

and the server would respond "UserName Ping 79ms. Team average Ping 84ms" or something.

 

Right now BF3 isn't going to have client side ping available, and this is a lot cleaner than giving 200 users procon admin...

 

Thanks for your consideration!

You assume the server side has a ping available

 

Maybe its something Phogue can get sorted for us while he is at DICE

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Originally Posted by bambam*:

 

I'm not sure whether BF3 will actually have the client ping - we have to wait and see what data is returned via the rcon protocol. This isn't hugely related to what is displayed or not in the client game display screens. The following rule will show the ping the server thinks the player has.

 

On Say;Text ping;PlayerSay %p% your ping is %ping%

 

*edit 24-Oct-11* with info we have so far, the 'R3' spec of the BF3 protocol has the 'ping' attribute missing from the rcon Player Info data. So messages based on ping, and other ping limiter plugins will be non-functional until/unless ping is re-introduced in a later release of the BF3 rcon protocol.

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Originally Posted by tarreltje*:

 

BamBAm what is your develope status for proconrulz for bf3? Have looked for it in this tread but couldnt find it!

 

Cant wait to use it again

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Originally Posted by Rapidorg*:

 

Hope it gets his first beta around soon. Im currently working on extracting all the weapon variables (names, e.g.) from procon

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Originally Posted by lenthe*:

 

Any idea if this is running yet. Basically I want to limit players to no AA or any weapon that "locks" on, such as heat seekers.

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Originally Posted by ToM666*:

 

Any idea if this is running yet. Basically I want to limit players to no AA or any weapon that "locks" on, such as heat seekers.

LOL, I take it you're a pilot then

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Originally Posted by lenthe*:

 

LOL, I take it you're a pilot then

I like to fly the choppers without dodging a bunch of crap from the ground, makes it harder on jets using just guns though. But this way is way more fun that constantly dodging stingers from the ground.

 

It's a great way to learn how to fly though and it's fun blasting helicopters from your tank when they get a little too cocky.

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Originally Posted by Le-Tinois*:

 

Hi guys !

 

I find some 'readme file' on ProconRulz - 37.1.27c but I can't find it anywhere to download.

Any of you got a link or something ?

 

Thanks a lot

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Originally Posted by bambam*:

 

links, description and download are all in the first post of this thread...

 

*edit* a forum crash earlier today has deleted numerous posts, including my reply here. Procon/ProconRulz will be available for BF3, probably at the end of this month. *Everything* is 'beta' at the moment, including BF3's rcon protocol. Procon, and any work I've done so far on ProconRulz, so you really should spend a little time thinking about your configs and maybe what rules make sense for your gameplay, but let the the servers bed down before you add the complexity of automated server rules.

 

Bambam

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Originally Posted by tarreltje*:

 

can you reup thelinkfor the beta version bam bam?

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Originally Posted by Le-Tinois*:

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for your answer Bambam. We will wait and see then

 

Btw I got a little problem (maybe it's a known one idk), I use this rulz :

On Kill;Damage ProjectileExplosive;Say %p% with EXPLOSIVES killed %v%

 

But it doesn't work at all, and when I read the log it seam to fail on 'ProjectileExplosive' like it's not recognize.

 

However things like : On Join;Admin;Say Admin %p% joining

works fine.

 

Any idea ?

 

Thanks again for your time and your dev Bambam good luck on that.

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Originally Posted by tarreltje*:

 

wich version are you using because the 32n wont work on bf3, and i still dont see the beta version for bf3

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Originally Posted by Le-Tinois*:

 

yep I'm using the 32n.

But I saw some server using it and it works fine so you really can't offer us to test your beta ?

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Originally Posted by RadicalMode*:

 

links, description and download are all in the first post of this thread...

 

*edit* a forum crash earlier today has deleted numerous posts, including my reply here. Procon/ProconRulz will be available for BF3, probably at the end of this month. *Everything* is 'beta' at the moment, including BF3's rcon protocol. Procon, and any work I've done so far on ProconRulz, so you really should spend a little time thinking about your configs and maybe what rules make sense for your gameplay, but let the the servers bed down before you add the complexity of automated server rules.

 

Bambam

nice.. thanks for updating this plugin.

 

any chance to have a beta version?

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Originally Posted by Strikes*:

 

So this kinda stuff confuses me... lol. Can anyone write me a rule that will kill a player if they equip Mortar in BF3?

 

Then have it put in say that equipped which is against the server rules and killed.

 

Or something along those lines?

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Originally Posted by bambam*:

 

Hey guys the best expectation as of now is that ProconRulz will be usable for BF3 in the first week of December, depending on Procon and BF3 updates.

 

The changes in the server protocol from BFBC2 really are quite small, so ProconRulz 'kinda' works already without any changes, but 2 minutes of testing will show that each core component (BF3, Procon, ProconRulz) are really at 'alpha' stage in terms of remote admin. I.e. there are dozens of fairly basic bugs and glitches.

 

Most of the issues for ProconRulz weapon limits etc are currently 'data' related, i.e. Procon still has the weapon list from BFBC2 (and also things like teams, damage, specs are not yet updated) so while there's not much reason why ProconRulz couldn't be providing a rule such as limiting mortar kills to 10 per player max or only allowing 1 mortar weapon per side we don't yet have the weapon (or damage) key for the mortar weapon. You could guess 'ProjectileExplosive' as per BFBC2 but you'd only be guessing. You could easily read the mortar weapon code by monitoring events in the Procon console, and put that into a rule, but other bits of Procon will choke because there's no 'localization' text that translates that key into a displayable value (which ProconRulz uses to display the %w% weapon name). I don't think at the moment Procon is getting the weapons a player spawns with AT ALL, so you can see this is early days.

 

Seriously, a delay before implementing ProconRulz is not as big a problem as you might think - you have time to consider carefully really which rulz would add value to gameplay, versus being a pain-in-the-ass. Also during the first month it's always possible DICE will make some adjustments to tune the gameplay (e.g. reduce the power of mortars, or limit the ammo). And on our newly acquired server there's still fine-tuning of server settings to do (did you know the BF3 kill-cam has a bug that means randomly you might not be able to disable it_)

 

So watch this space, think about rulz you might want to consider, and I'll make a test version of ProconRulz available as soon as the software has less of a feel of completely error-prone alpha code.

 

Bambam

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Originally Posted by Strikes*:

 

Very awesome update there Bam - I'm guessing I'm not the only Admin that's seeing massive amounts of requests for Mortars to be given a special place in hell? (We run all Hardcore servers and lord are they OP in there)

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Originally Posted by Clay52*:

 

Very awesome update there Bam - I'm guessing I'm not the only Admin that's seeing massive amounts of requests for Mortars to be given a special place in hell? (We run all Hardcore servers and lord are they OP in there)

Agreed, although on my 24/7 Op Metro server 64 Conquest it's the 320 spamming

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Originally Posted by defunkt*:

 

Don't mind mortars, turning off the minimap pretty much puts paid to them, it's the IRNV Scope of Shame I want off my server.

 

The R3 (_) RCon docs say onSpawn no longer details the kit/gadgets, do we have reason to hope this will be restored?

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Originally Posted by anTastico*:

 

Been a Hardcore server admin myself i cant wait till this mod get's updated so we can get rid or at least limit the use of the damn mortars and also rpg vs inf kills.

 

Keep up the good work, will be following this mod and procon very closely.

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Originally Posted by bambam*:

 

The R3 (_) RCon docs say onSpawn no longer details the kit/gadgets

Correct, although the docs aren't really keeping up with the code. As of R8 the player onSpawn event data does NOT include weapon/kit/spec so obviously we're shagged there until that changes. The onKill event DOES contain a (undocumented) weapon key (but that can't be translated to Damage type because we don't have the cross-reference data).

 

But DICE are well aware of our requirements, Phogue was over there explaining this in person. We'll wait and see.

 

Bambam

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Originally Posted by FARSTAN*:

 

I'm new to Procon, and I discovered your system because RPG, SMAW, and mortar, are impossible to play, I wanted to know what command can limit these weapons

 

I tried this but it does not work, I think the code as a weapon and the rest lol

On Spawn;Weapon M249;PlayerSay >>%p%

 

if someone would be kind enough to give the codes of BF3 weapons, would be his great

 

ty