Adaptive Server Size (1.3.5.3 - 06/14/15)

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Originally Posted by Adama42*:

 

Hey Falcon, Adama here from Pure Battlefield. Thanks again for these plugins, they make such a huge difference... but then you already know that.

 

I'm writing to inquire whether you're aware of the QuickJoin changes with R33. Apparently servers no longer get QuickMatch traffic if the difference between the server's max player count and its current game mode's "preferred player count" is greater than 25%.

 

For example, Rush has a preferred player count of 32, so if your max server size is > 40, you won't get quickjoiners. Similarly, CQL has a preferred player count of 64, so if your max server size is There's a discussion thread about this here.

 

Here's an example of how this can be problematic. Our server is a Rush/CQ server, so for us, I think the best strategy is:

1. When gaining players on Rush, keep max server size at 40 until the last possible second -- i.e. don't raise it any higher (to 44 or 48 or whatever) until you are actually at 40 players

2. When losing players on Conquest, don't drop the max server size below 48

 

Currently, the plugin doesn't provide this sort of flexibility, and the effects are quite detrimental. For example, if I optimize for the Rush case, then when my Conquest headcount is dwindling in the evening, as soon as I hit 40 players my max server size drops to 40, and suddenly I lose Conquest quickjoiners. On the other hand, if I optimize for Conquest, then my max server size while I'm in the 30-40 range will be set to 48, and I have trouble getting Rush quickjoiners to push me up into Conquest territory. Does that make sense?

 

I am wondering if you are aware of this issue, and have any plans to implement additional functionality to help compensate for it.

 

You already have config settings for "max server size" per gametype. I think a couple of extra config settings would do the trick:

 

1) "max server size UNLESS server is full" per gametype. Works just as the existing "max server size per gametype" settings, except the cap would be lifted if the server is at capacity.

 

2) "Lowest allowed max server size per gametype" setting. I'd like to set this to 48 for Conquest Large.

 

An alternate, and more general strategy, would be to include an entire mapping of "current population -> max server size" settings per gametype, as you do w/Adaptive Ticket Count.

 

Thanks for listening,

James / Adama

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

I'm writing to inquire whether you're aware of the QuickJoin changes with R33. Apparently servers no longer get QuickMatch traffic if the difference between the server's max player count and its current game mode's "preferred player count" is greater than 25%.

I've been told this has always been this way, but it was never documented until now.

Only difference with R33: the server shows it's Quick Match status now.

 

Also, the official documentation is showing the wrong "intended player counts" for some gamemodes.

TDM is not intended for 24 players, but 32. Tank Superiority is intended for 24, not 64.

When / if new server docs are released, this should be fixed.

 

This is the correct info:

QM.png

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Originally Posted by Adama42*:

 

I've been told this has always been this way, but it was never documented until now.

Only difference with R33: the server shows it's Quick Match status now.

No shit? Well, that would make a big difference :-) Where do you hear this from?

 

Can anyone confirm?

 

 

Also, the official documentation is showing the wrong "intended player counts" for some gamemodes.

TDM is not intended for 24 players, but 32. Tank Superiority is intended for 24, not 64.

When / if new server docs are released, this should be fixed.

 

This is the correct info:

QM.png

Thanks for the info.

 

Where do you find the latest official server docs? Is there some sort of official repository?

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

No shit? Well, that would make a big difference :-) Where do you hear this from?

 

Can anyone confirm?

No need to confirm. I received this info straight from a DICE Dev last month. See that Multiplay forums link.

 

Where do you find the latest official server docs? Is there some sort of official repository?

Latest publicized official docs can be found here:

www.phogue.net/forumvb/showth...ation-released*

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

I am reading this. I'll have to ponder which would be the best way to optimize for these conditions. It may be a bit before I am able to make any changes though, due to trips and the holidays and such. Just giving you fair warning.

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Originally Posted by Adama42*:

 

Thanks to both of you!

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Originally Posted by hellstroops*:

 

when will we be able to ajust scavinger max player size? I have donated

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

when will we be able to ajust scavinger max player size? I have donated

It already works. You need to update your BF3.def file.

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Originally Posted by Singh400*:

 

when will we be able to ajust scavinger max player size? I have donated

Every time a new DLC gets released...

 

sighs

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Originally Posted by hellstroops*:

 

It already works. You need to update your BF3.def file.

I downloaded a new copy of procon and copye the bf3.def to my procon server configs folder nd restarted I still dont see Scavenger in the plugin at the bottom i set every thing to max size of 64 but to no avail

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

I downloaded a new copy of procon and copye the bf3.def to my procon server configs folder nd restarted I still dont see Scavenger in the plugin at the bottom i set every thing to max size of 64 but to no avail

After you upload the proper BF3.def file, you must restart the layer server first, then close and reopen your local PRoCon.

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Originally Posted by hellstroops*:

 

After you upload the proper BF3.def file, you must restart the layer server first, then close and reopen your local PRoCon.

i did that i restarted my layer and i have replaced and restarted the layer 2 times nothing

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Originally Posted by hellstroops*:

 

i also opened the new bf3.def file and searched for Scavenger and found nothing in the file

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

i also opened the new bf3.def file and searched for Scavenger and found nothing in the file

Then it's not up-to-date, like I originally stated. A new copy of PRoCon does not come with the latest version of BF3.def. It's updated when you choose "Check for Updates" from the tools menu.

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Originally Posted by hellstroops*:

 

Then it's not up-to-date, like I originally stated. A new copy of PRoCon does not come with the latest version of BF3.def. It's updated when you choose "Check for Updates" from the tools menu.

Ty i have done that in my normal procon but nothing like that has been downloaded i ran a new version of procon and it updated thanks have a good night. :smile:

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Originally Posted by kcuestag*:

 

Looks like the plugin is broken with the last patch, I have same bug I had few patches ago where many people would get stuck loading on black screen and Procon showed them on Neutral team.

 

Disabling the plugin and running next round fixes it.

 

Can we expect a fix for this? This plugin is amazing, would suck if I had to stop using it again.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Looks like the plugin is broken with the last patch, I have same bug I had few patches ago where many people would get stuck loading on black screen and Procon showed them on Neutral team.

 

Disabling the plugin and running next round fixes it.

 

Can we expect a fix for this? This plugin is amazing, would suck if I had to stop using it again.

I'm never going to be able to solve a problem where a proper bug report is unavailable, as in this case. Please follow every step in this thread:

www.phogue.net/forumvb/showth...a-plugin-issue*

 

Also, if you have a 24/7 layer server, "On startup, assume round started at max server size_" should be set to "Yes".

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Originally Posted by kcuestag*:

 

I'm never going to be able to solve a problem where a proper bug report is unavailable, as in this case. Please follow every step in this thread:

www.phogue.net/forumvb/showth...a-plugin-issue*

 

Also, if you have a 24/7 layer server, "On startup, assume round started at max server size_" should be set to "Yes".

I can't find any logs for this plugin, where should I be looking into?

 

Also, I think it may have happened during Scavenger, can't remember.

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Originally Posted by xFaNtASyGiRLx*:

 

Looks like the plugin is broken with the last patch, I have same bug I had few patches ago where many people would get stuck loading on black screen and Procon showed them on Neutral team.

 

Disabling the plugin and running next round fixes it.

 

Can we expect a fix for this? This plugin is amazing, would suck if I had to stop using it again.

this happens to me whenever a bunch of people try to connect at the same time. usually only when i first restart a server. this only happens on rare occasions.

 

the plugin works fine.

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Originally Posted by cableguy619*:

 

Plugin is working fine for me. As stated just clicked check for update and everythign else has been fine

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Originally Posted by FSUNOLE*:

 

I enabled this last night & was able to 14 players on my server. Still trying to figure out the plugin to maximize it.

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Originally Posted by FSUNOLE*:

 

This plugin is amazing. My server has been going since 2:30 P.M. EST.

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Originally Posted by leyeti*:

 

Hello Installed today on the ProCon server (FTP Zilla)

Reboot ProCon server, then restart local ProCon (1.4.0.4) ... but the Plugin is not in the list.

Any Help welcome

 

On the ProCon server, the BF3.def is from Dec 6th 2012, including DLC-4 weapons and mode.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Hello Installed today. Reboot ProCon server, then restart local ProCon... but no Plugin visible.

Is there someone using it, currently ?

Unzip the file into your PRoCon folder or manually place the files in the correct locations.

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Originally Posted by leyeti*:

 

Unzip the file into your PRoCon folder or manually place the files in the correct locations.

Hi, I have bunch of Plugin, (eg : Adaptative Ticket Count) wich all works fine and installed by myslef.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Hi, I have bunch of Plugin, (eg : Adaptative Ticket Count) wich all works fine and installed by myslef.

It's the same as all of the others. I don't know what's wrong. When you start PRoCon, check the plugin console for error messages to see what's wrong.

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Originally Posted by Blitz*:

 

Hey Falcon, your plugin doesn't like aftermath servers. Keeps setting default max players to 32 all the time.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Hey Falcon, your plugin doesn't like aftermath servers. Keeps setting default max players to 32 all the time.

For which game modes? Scavenger? Tell me when and where you're seeing this. You didn't provide much detail. You need to check out this post: www.phogue.net/forumvb/showth...a-plugin-issue*

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Originally Posted by FSUNOLE*:

 

How do I set the server so it only takes 2 players to start instead of 4? Here is my config:

 

vars.friendlyFire true

vars.idleTimeout 300

vars.teamKillCountForKick 5

vars.teamKillValueForKick 4

vars.teamKillValueIncrease 1

vars.teamKillValueDecreasePerSecond 0

vars.autoBalance true

vars.killCam false

vars.miniMap true

vars.3dSpotting false

vars.miniMapSpotting true

vars.3pCam false

vars.maxPlayers 64

vars.idleBanRounds 0

vars.vehicleSpawnAllowed true

vars.vehicleSpawnDelay 100

vars.bulletDamage 100

vars.nameTag false

vars.regenerateHealth false

vars.roundRestartPlayerCount 1

vars.roundStartPlayerCount 2

vars.onlySquadLeaderSpawn true

vars.unlockMode "stats"

vars.gunMasterWeaponsPreset 0

vars.soldierHealth 60

vars.hud false

vars.playerManDownTime 100

vars.playerRespawnTime 100

vars.gameModeCounter 100

vars.serverMessage ""

reservedSlotsList.aggressiveJoin false

vars.roundLockdownCountdown 15

vars.roundWarmupTimeout 600

vars.premiumStatus false

 

It is set up this way already but when we join it says waiting on 3 players. Any ideas

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

How do I set the server so it only takes 2 players to start instead of 4? Here is my config:

 

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It is set up this way already but when we join it says waiting on 3 players. Any ideas

This has nothing at all to do with this plugin. You should have started a separate thread, or better yet, searched. But, the answer is: you can't. The server requires 4 people to start.