ImportBot Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: How can i speed up balancing it seems to take a while , and how does scrambler work.I know it is long, but read all of post #1 and post #2. Also read the FAQ (linked from post #1). Those will answer your questions. Hint: for fast balancing, look up Enable Admin Kill For Fast Balance in post #1. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: Something I didn't think about until now...I wonder what use ticket loss acceleration would be. We already calculate ticket loss rates, but knowing how fast those values are changing could be useful. Perhaps it could be used in some cases for early detection of team strength?Yeah, I thought of that too. I think you have enough info to do the second derivative. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: Does anyone know if it's possible to prevent a squad leader change after team scramble? I've always had this "issue" with team scramble but it was never a problem for me but with the new classic game mode where squad leader only spawn is enabled, it's important that squad leader doesn't change after every round.No, sorry, it doesn't preserve SL. You'd have to disable scrambling to insure that. Even if you use Keep Squads Together, they have to be moved one at a time and the order is essentially random. So even though all the same members will end up in the same squad, the order is pretty much guaranteed to change. Since BF4 has a squad.leader command that both gets and sets, it is theoretically possible to get all the squad leaders before the scramble and reassign them after the scramble. It won't work if the SL leaves or if random other things happen, like the timing of the squad.leader setting command happens too early or too late, but it might be worth a shot. Do you want to enter it as a wish list item for the next update? Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*: No, sorry, it doesn't preserve SL. You'd have to disable scrambling to insure that. Even if you use Keep Squads Together, they have to be moved one at a time and the order is essentially random. So even though all the same members will end up in the same squad, the order is pretty much guaranteed to change. Since BF4 has a squad.leader command that both gets and sets, it is theoretically possible to get all the squad leaders before the scramble and reassign them after the scramble. It won't work if the SL leaves or if random other things happen, like the timing of the squad.leader setting command happens too early or too late, but it might be worth a shot. Do you want to enter it as a wish list item for the next update? By the way, BF3 also has the leader command. I used my lead command in BF3 once not expecting it to work and it did. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*: I found a medium between our two methods of ticket loss calculation. Your method of creating filler values to make each the same weight, and mine of using the moving window to make it a linear equation. Looked it up and its called linear/polynomial interpolation. Here is the flow: Server info every 10 seconds. New ticket value T comes in, at time t. Time t is truncated to seconds, removing all sub-second value. If this value is the first value, just enqueue T and t. If not, get the time difference between the new t, and latest old t in integer seconds. Calculate the linear equation T=mt+b between the two points. Loop over every second ti between old t and new t. For each, plug ti into the linear equation, and enqueue that Ti and ti. Dequeue all values outside the decided ticket window. (2 minutes in my version). Take median of the differences between each ticket count in the queue as the ticket difference rate in tickets/sec. Multiply by 60 to get tickets/min. Code example (debug lines included for testing): Code: public void UpdateTicketCount(Double newTicketCount){ //Get rounded time (floor) DateTime newTicketTime = DateTime.UtcNow; newTicketTime = newTicketTime.AddTicks(-(newTicketTime.Ticks % TimeSpan.TicksPerSecond)); if (!TeamTicketsAdded) { TeamScoreDifferenceRate = 0; TeamTicketCount = (Int32)newTicketCount; TeamTicketsTime = newTicketTime; if(TeamID == 0 || TeamID == 1 || TeamID == 2) Plugin.ConsoleSuccess(TeamName + ":(first) " + Math.Round(newTicketCount, 2) + " | " + newTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); TeamTicketCounts.Enqueue(new KeyValuePair<double, DateTime>(newTicketCount, newTicketTime)); TeamTicketsAdded = true; return; } //Interpolation DateTime oldTicketTime = TeamTicketsTime; Double oldTicketValue = TeamTicketCount; Double interTimeOldSeconds = 0; Double interTimeNewSeconds = (newTicketTime - oldTicketTime).TotalSeconds; Double m = (newTicketCount - oldTicketValue) / (interTimeNewSeconds); Double b = oldTicketValue; if (TeamID == 0 || TeamID == 1 || TeamID == 2) Plugin.ConsoleWarn(TeamName + ":(old) " + Math.Round(oldTicketValue, 2) + " | " + oldTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); for (Int32 sec = (Int32)interTimeOldSeconds; sec < interTimeNewSeconds; sec++) { DateTime subTicketTime = oldTicketTime.AddSeconds(sec); Double subTicketValue = (m * sec) + b; if (TeamID == 0 || TeamID == 1 || TeamID == 2) Plugin.ConsoleWarn(TeamName + ":(sub) " + Math.Round(subTicketValue, 2) + " | " + subTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); TeamTicketCounts.Enqueue(new KeyValuePair<double, DateTime>(subTicketValue, subTicketTime)); } Plugin.ConsoleWarn(TeamName + ":(new) " + Math.Round(newTicketCount, 2) + " | " + newTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); //Remove old values Boolean removed = false; do { removed = false; if (TeamTicketCounts.Any() && (DateTime.UtcNow - TeamTicketCounts.Peek().Value).TotalSeconds > 120) { TeamTicketCounts.Dequeue(); removed = true; } } while (removed); //Set instance vars TeamTicketCount = (Int32)newTicketCount; TeamTicketsTime = newTicketTime; List<Double> values = TeamTicketCounts.Select(pair => pair.Key).ToList(); var differences = new List<Double>(); for (int i = 0; i < values.Count - 1; i++) { differences.Add(values[i + 1] - values[i]); } differences.Sort(); //Convert to tickets/min TeamTicketDifferenceRate = (differences.Sum() / differences.Count) * 60; if (TeamID == 0 || TeamID == 1 || TeamID == 2) Plugin.ConsoleWarn(TeamName + ":(rate) " + Math.Round(TeamTicketDifferenceRate, 2) + " | " + newTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); } Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 5, 2014 Author Share Posted October 5, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: I found a medium between our two methods of ticket loss calculation. Your method of creating filler values to make each the same weight, and mine of using the moving window to make it a linear equation. Looked it up and its called linear/polynomial interpolation. Here is the flow: Server info every 10 seconds. New ticket value T comes in, at time t. Time t is truncated to seconds, removing all sub-second value. If this value is the first value, just enqueue T and t. If not, get the time difference between the new t, and latest old t in integer seconds. Calculate the linear equation T=mt+b between the two points. Loop over every second ti between old t and new t. For each, plug ti into the linear equation, and enqueue that Ti and ti. Dequeue all values outside the decided ticket window. (2 minutes in my version). Take median of the differences between each ticket count in the queue as the ticket difference rate in tickets/sec. Multiply by 60 to get tickets/min. Code example (debug lines included for testing): Code: public void UpdateTicketCount(Double newTicketCount){ //Get rounded time (floor) DateTime newTicketTime = DateTime.UtcNow; newTicketTime = newTicketTime.AddTicks(-(newTicketTime.Ticks % TimeSpan.TicksPerSecond)); if (!TeamTicketsAdded) { TeamScoreDifferenceRate = 0; TeamTicketCount = (Int32)newTicketCount; TeamTicketsTime = newTicketTime; if(TeamID == 0 || TeamID == 1 || TeamID == 2) Plugin.ConsoleSuccess(TeamName + ":(first) " + Math.Round(newTicketCount, 2) + " | " + newTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); TeamTicketCounts.Enqueue(new KeyValuePair<double, DateTime>(newTicketCount, newTicketTime)); TeamTicketsAdded = true; return; } //Interpolation DateTime oldTicketTime = TeamTicketsTime; Double oldTicketValue = TeamTicketCount; Double interTimeOldSeconds = 0; Double interTimeNewSeconds = (newTicketTime - oldTicketTime).TotalSeconds; Double m = (newTicketCount - oldTicketValue) / (interTimeNewSeconds); Double b = oldTicketValue; if (TeamID == 0 || TeamID == 1 || TeamID == 2) Plugin.ConsoleWarn(TeamName + ":(old) " + Math.Round(oldTicketValue, 2) + " | " + oldTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); for (Int32 sec = (Int32)interTimeOldSeconds; sec < interTimeNewSeconds; sec++) { DateTime subTicketTime = oldTicketTime.AddSeconds(sec); Double subTicketValue = (m * sec) + b; if (TeamID == 0 || TeamID == 1 || TeamID == 2) Plugin.ConsoleWarn(TeamName + ":(sub) " + Math.Round(subTicketValue, 2) + " | " + subTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); TeamTicketCounts.Enqueue(new KeyValuePair<double, DateTime>(subTicketValue, subTicketTime)); } Plugin.ConsoleWarn(TeamName + ":(new) " + Math.Round(newTicketCount, 2) + " | " + newTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); //Remove old values Boolean removed = false; do { removed = false; if (TeamTicketCounts.Any() && (DateTime.UtcNow - TeamTicketCounts.Peek().Value).TotalSeconds > 120) { TeamTicketCounts.Dequeue(); removed = true; } } while (removed); //Set instance vars TeamTicketCount = (Int32)newTicketCount; TeamTicketsTime = newTicketTime; List<Double> values = TeamTicketCounts.Select(pair => pair.Key).ToList(); var differences = new List<Double>(); for (int i = 0; i < values.Count - 1; i++) { differences.Add(values[i + 1] - values[i]); } differences.Sort(); //Convert to tickets/min TeamTicketDifferenceRate = (differences.Sum() / differences.Count) * 60; if (TeamID == 0 || TeamID == 1 || TeamID == 2) Plugin.ConsoleWarn(TeamName + ":(rate) " + Math.Round(TeamTicketDifferenceRate, 2) + " | " + newTicketTime.ToLongTimeString()); } Interesting. How does it compare to the other methods? Is there enough improvement in accuracy to be worth the complexity? It's probably more likely that, if we could sample once per second, we'd see a lot of zeroes, rather than a lot of repeated non-zero values, e.g., 3,0,0,1,0,5,0,2,1,1 (median = 1/sec) rather than 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,1 (median 3/sec) or 3,2.8,2.6,2.4,2.2,2.0,1.8,1.6,1.4,1 (median 2.2/sec). Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*: Interesting. How does it compare to the other methods? Is there enough improvement in accuracy to be worth the complexity? It's probably more likely that, if we could sample once per second, we'd see a lot of zeroes, rather than a lot of repeated non-zero values, e.g., 3,0,0,1,0,5,0,2,1,1 (median = 1/sec) rather than 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,1 (median 3/sec) or 3,2.8,2.6,2.4,2.2,2.0,1.8,1.6,1.4,1 (median 2.2/sec). This method is along the same concept as a Riemann sum, where once you have a function, the more points you calculate the better your approximation of the curve. Except in this case we aren't adding up sections of area under the curve, instead we are generating values of the curve itself because we don't know the function. This makes modeling the actual value of ticket count over time more accurate, and thus the change in tickets is more accurate as a result. With this method you could plug in a time and a reasonable approximation of the ticket count at that second would be sent back. I will admit though, using a mean at the end instead of a median would be better, and i'll be making those changes to suit. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*: This might be useful to your plugins. I wrote an update script that automatically downloads plugin updates when stable releases are made. It tells admins they need to restart to run the update already downloaded, or if the layer can't download it for some reason it just tells them an update is available. If a new stable version is available, that plugin source is downloaded, a test compile is run on it to make sure the download was valid, then the plugin source is overwritten with the updated version. Update checks are performed hourly. A disable switch is provided for people who have modded the code themselves and don't want automatic updates. CheckForPluginUpdates https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Co...test/AdKats.cs Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Originally Posted by catatonic*: Yes sir, actually the post previous to the one you looked at was with the MB disabled. I had it turned off due to the issue I was having. The post you reviewed is with MB on. This may just be a SDM thing, I understand we may just have to go with it. Thanks again for your time and patience. I can post another if you like. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*: I just noticed you have externally callable functions like UpdatePluginData, but don't register them with RegisterCommand. Is there a reason for this? Plugins need to know if those functions are available to be called. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: I just noticed you have externally callable functions like UpdatePluginData, but don't register them with RegisterCommand. Is there a reason for this? Plugins need to know if those functions are available to be called.I'd rather than the human developer know, by reading my documentation, than a plugin mindlessly enumerating an availability list. The functions are still callable, you just can't discover them automatically. Or at least that's what testing seems to demonstrate. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*: I'd rather than the human developer know, by reading my documentation, than a plugin mindlessly enumerating an availability list. The functions are still callable, you just can't discover them automatically. Or at least that's what testing seems to demonstrate. That's not what i was getting at, there is functionality specific to your plugin that I run. Feeding the white list, dispersion list, and disabling unswitcher for example. It would be nice to know if any of that will actually succeed by being able to check if the plugin is installed and running, hence being able to check available matchcommands. They still need to use the docs to find out how things work. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: That's not what i was getting at, there is functionality specific to your plugin that I run. Feeding the white list, dispersion list, and disabling unswitcher for example. It would be nice to know if any of that will actually succeed by being able to check if the plugin is installed and running, hence being able to check available matchcommands. They still need to use the docs to find out how things work. Oh, you want a way to know if MB is loaded? I thought there was a Procon API for that apart from RegisterCommand, though I can't recall what it is at the moment. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*: Oh, you want a way to know if MB is loaded? I thought there was a Procon API for that apart from RegisterCommand, though I can't recall what it is at the moment.Loaded, and loaded/running. I'll look around for the API for loaded, but i know there isn't one for running. A lot of people have MB installed, but will be running another balancer instead. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Originally Posted by AgentHawk*: I dont know why, but sometimes are our rounds totaly unbalanced. Like 900-0 (DOM//1200-1200) same in TDM and CQ. We playing on a Votemap Server with TDM-DOM-CQ(cq is only locker) Are my settings complete wrong? Thanks for you help. 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Settings for Domination|Domination: Determine Strong Players By: RoundScore [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Percent Of Top Of Team Is Strong: 30 [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Only Move Weak Players: False [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Disperse Evenly By Rank >=: 0 [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Disperse Evenly By Clan Players >=: 0 [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Disperse Evenly List: True [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Strict Dispersal: True [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Low Population Adjustments: False [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Definition Of High Population For Players >=: 48 [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Definition Of Low Population For Players [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Definition Of Early Phase As Tickets From Start: 100 [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Definition Of Late Phase As Tickets From End: 200 [21:51:58 18] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Scrambler: True Quote * Restored post. 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ImportBot Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: I dont know why, but sometimes are our rounds totaly unbalanced. Like 900-0 (DOM//1200-1200) same in TDM and CQ. We playing on a Votemap Server with TDM-DOM-CQ(cq is only locker) Are my settings complete wrong? Thanks for you help. Greetings Read the Unstacking FAQs first and if they don't help, post again: showthread....d-explanations* Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Originally Posted by Level*:where can I set that only dead player get autobalaced?And the Ticket different too High for me. Edited August 8, 2019 by maxdralle Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: where can I set that only dead player get autobalaced?Make sure Enable Admin Kill For Fast Balance is set to False. And the Ticket different too High for me.Read the Unstacking FAQs first and if they don't help, post again:showthread....d-explanations* Edited August 8, 2019 by maxdralle Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Originally Posted by Level*: Make sure Enable Admin Kill For Fast Balance is set to False. Read the Unstacking FAQs first and if they don't help, post again: showthread....d-explanations* Link does not work Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 Originally Posted by AgentHawk*: so...done with the FAQ and changed some settings. But I have still the problem with the big spike rounds like 700-0 (1200-1200 DOM) [18:58:18 71] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Map = Zavod 311, mode = Domination, time in round = 00:23:20, tickets = 0/783 [18:58:18 71] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Ticket difference = 783, ticket ratio percentage is 288%, average RoundScore stats ratio = 212% (6303.0/2979.1) [18:58:18 71] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: 0/26 raged, 9 reassigned, 0 balanced, 8 unstacked, 1 unswitched, 218 excluded, 405 exempted, 0 failed; of 1460 TOTAL [18:58:18 71] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Team counts [61] = 29(RU) vs 32(US), with 1 unassigned, 0 commanders, 0 spectators [16:09:32 34] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] Command: gen 1 [16:09:32 34] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 1 - Settings|Debug Level: 2 [16:09:32 34] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 1 - Settings|Maximum Server Size: 64 [16:09:32 34] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 1 - Settings|Enable Battlelog Requests: True [16:09:32 34] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 1 - Settings|Which Battlelog Stats: ClanTagOnly [16:09:32 34] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 1 - 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Round Phase and Population Settings|Spelling Of Speed Names Reminder: Click_Here_For_Speed_Names [16:10:43 99] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 3 - Round Phase and Population Settings|Early Phase: Balance Speed (Low, Med, High population): Fast, Adaptive, Adaptive [16:10:43 99] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 3 - Round Phase and Population Settings|Mid Phase: Balance Speed (Low, Med, High population): Fast, Adaptive, Adaptive [16:10:43 99] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 3 - Round Phase and Population Settings|Late Phase: Balance Speed (Low, Med, High population): Stop, Stop, Stop [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Max Players: 64 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Check Team Stacking After First Minutes: 3 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Max Unstacking Swaps Per Round: 20 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Number Of Swaps Per Group: 4 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Delay Seconds Between Swap Groups: 600 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Max Unstacking Ticket Difference: 200 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Unstacking By Player Stats: True [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Determine Strong Players By: RoundScore [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Percent Of Top Of Team Is Strong: 40 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Only Move Weak Players: False [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Disperse Evenly By Rank >=: 0 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Disperse Evenly By Clan Players >=: 0 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Disperse Evenly List: True [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Strict Dispersal: True [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Low Population Adjustments: False [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Definition Of High Population For Players >=: 48 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Definition Of Low Population For Players [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Definition Of Early Phase As Tickets From Start: 100 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Definition Of Late Phase As Tickets From End: 200 [16:11:28 80] [MULTIbalancer]:0 [show In Log] 8 - Settings for Domination|Domination: Enable Scrambler: False Quote * Restored post. 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ImportBot Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: Link does not workSorry, try this or look at post #2029 above. showthread....d-explanations* Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: so...done with the FAQ and changed some settings. But I have still the problem with the big spike rounds like 700-0 (1200-1200 DOM)What is the average length of time of your rounds? DOM tends to run fast (you posted a 23 minute round, which is fast), and as noted in the FAQ, the longer the round runs, the better Unstacking works. (True, it says tickets instead of time, but I meant time). Also the FAQ makes clear that you are not going to have perfect rounds every time. If you get a close round one out of every three, you are doing well. EDIT: Well, looks like you have been at this for some time! One of the FAQs was in response to your question about unstacking. Have you collected the multiple days of log data that was suggested here? myrcon.net/...multibalancer-30-mar-2015-bfhl#entry35334 Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Originally Posted by AgentHawk*: What is the average length of time of your rounds? EDIT: Well, looks like you have been at this for some time! One of the FAQs was in response to your question about unstacking. Have you collected the multiple days of log data that was suggested here? myrcon.net/...multibalancer-30-mar-2015-bfhl#entry35334 The average is ~25min. And yes I checked the rounds over a week and tdm are quite okay but the Dom rounds are rly often unbalanced. And I dont know why. Look at my last round [16:25:36 43] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Map = Operation Locker, mode = Domination, time in round = 00:29:16, tickets = 430/0 [16:25:36 43] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Ticket difference = 430, ticket ratio percentage is 156%, average RoundScore stats ratio = 143% (6821.2/4779.3) [16:25:36 43] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: 0/28 raged, 15 reassigned, 0 balanced, 2 unstacked, 1 unswitched, 236 excluded, 1162 exempted, 0 failed; of 1953 TOTAL [16:25:36 43] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Team counts [61] = 31(US) vs 30(RU), with 2 unassigned, 0 commanders, 0 spectators 0 balanced 2 unstacked but my settings are much higher. Greetings Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: The average is ~25min. And yes I checked the rounds over a week and tdm are quite okay but the Dom rounds are rly often unbalanced. And I dont know why. Look at my last round [16:25:36 43] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Map = Operation Locker, mode = Domination, time in round = 00:29:16, tickets = 430/0 [16:25:36 43] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Ticket difference = 430, ticket ratio percentage is 156%, average RoundScore stats ratio = 143% (6821.2/4779.3) [16:25:36 43] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: 0/28 raged, 15 reassigned, 0 balanced, 2 unstacked, 1 unswitched, 236 excluded, 1162 exempted, 0 failed; of 1953 TOTAL [16:25:36 43] [MULTIbalancer]:0 Status: Team counts [61] = 31(US) vs 30(RU), with 2 unassigned, 0 commanders, 0 spectators 0 balanced 2 unstacked but my settings are much higher. Greetings Higher isn't necessarily better, particularly if other settings are blocking effectiveness. You have too many exclusions. Each exclusion is one fewer player that can be swapped. You ought to turn them all off if unstacking is more important to you. For example, you are excluding the top 3 scorers. Those are the players that can be most effective in helping the losing team. Are you sure your experimentation showed 130 as being the best ratio? That seems a tad high to me for DOM. What's the average ticket ratio mid round? Once you've unlocked swapping, 20 swaps in groups of 4 is way too many when there are only 32 players on the team! That's more than half of every team potentially swapping. Remember, you've got strong set to 40, which means you take the LESSER (40% of 32) to determine the swapping pool. That's 12.8, so the absolute maximum number of swaps would be 13, but even that is too high. Try 10 in groups of 2. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Originally Posted by corsairoz*: Folks I have a question or two regarding the disperse evenly list. Q1 We have a problem with 2 clans 'clan stacking' our server. So we want to split them as they arrive. So if 4 from clan AAA clan and 4 from clan BBB are in the server it puts (ideally) 2 AAA and 2 BBB on each side. So in the disperse evenly list, would this simply achieve that_: AAA BBB Does this mean that the named clans will always be spread evenly? Q2 Also what happens with 4 players in the disperse evenly list? For example if: P1 P2 P3 P4 Will P1 and P3 always play together? And P2 and P4 always together? Or is the dispersal random? Thanks for explaining. C Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*: Folks I have a question or two regarding the disperse evenly list. Q1 We have a problem with 2 clans 'clan stacking' our server. So we want to split them as they arrive. So if 4 from clan AAA clan and 4 from clan BBB are in the server it puts (ideally) 2 AAA and 2 BBB on each side. So in the disperse evenly list, would this simply achieve that_: AAA BBB Does this mean that the named clans will always be spread evenly? Q2 Also what happens with 4 players in the disperse evenly list? For example if: P1 P2 P3 P4 Will P1 and P3 always play together? And P2 and P4 always together? Or is the dispersal random? Thanks for explaining. C Dispersion list doesn't care about clan tags, you will most likely end up with ABA vs BAB, or AAB vs BBA. All it cares about are counts. it will split everyone on the list evenly between teams, moving based on who dies first. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Originally Posted by usermac*: After someone has help they guy above Please can somebody help me with setting this plugin up. I run a 32 player conquest large server 800 tickets and would like it to be as fair as possible.I have gone through the getting started section "../page1/index.html&p=84642&viewfull=1#post84642" and gone with those settings but changed tickets to 800 and did not do the scramble.I cant get this plugin to work also I get WARNING:BatlelogCache is not supported for BF4 YET! Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: Folks I have a question or two regarding the disperse evenly list. Q1 We have a problem with 2 clans 'clan stacking' our server. So we want to split them as they arrive. So if 4 from clan AAA clan and 4 from clan BBB are in the server it puts (ideally) 2 AAA and 2 BBB on each side. So in the disperse evenly list, would this simply achieve that_: AAA BBB Does this mean that the named clans will always be spread evenly? If AAA or BBB are clan tags and if you have the appropriate settings for enabling dispersal lists set (e.g., Enable Disperse Evenly List), then yes, that should split players with the AAA tag evenly, and independently, split players with the BBB tag evenly. Q2 Also what happens with 4 players in the disperse evenly list? For example if: P1 P2 P3 P4 Will P1 and P3 always play together? And P2 and P4 always together? Or is the dispersal random? Thanks for explaining. C Think of dispersal as having an extra tag on the players's names, like *. So if the Dispersal List has: LGN George And the total player list (ignoring teams) is: [LGN]PapaCharlie9 [AAA]Tom [XYZ]George Bill dispersal marks all the players eligible for dispersal like this: *[LGN]PapaCharlie9 [AAA]Tom *[XYZ]George Bill Then it counts how many marked players are on each team. If the counts are even or within one (e.g., 3 v 2), nothing happens. If the counts differ by 2 or more and Dispersal is enabled, MB makes moves to bring the counts into balance, even if these end up making the total team counts unbalanced. So for the example above, if the team distribution were: Team 1: *[LGN]PapaCharlie9 *[XYZ]George Team 2: [AAA]Tom Bill And George is killed in the line of duty, MB will move George to team 2, resulting in: Team 1: *[LGN]PapaCharlie9 Team 2: [AAA]Tom Bill *[XYZ]George So to answer your question, eventually, the distribution of P1 through P4 should be that there are two players Pi,Pj on team 1 and two players Pk,Pl on team 2, and which ones are distributed to which teams depends on the order in which they die, so effectively, random. Make sense? EDIT: While I'm at it, I might as well explain groups here too, and then point to this reply as a FAQ. Groups work similarly, except that instead of *, the marker used is a specific team number: 1, 2, 3, or 4. The 3 and 4 are only applicable for SQDM. Then group dispersal is a much simpler than general dispersal. All MB does is check to see if the player is currently in the team they are marked with, and if they aren't, moves them when they die. If the list has: 1 Bill Joe Sally 2 AAA And the team distribution is: Team 1: [AAA]Frank [AAA]Crazy Noob Team 2: Bill Sally Joe Eventually, the team distribution will end up being: Team 1: Noob Bill Sally Joe Team 2: [AAA]Frank [AAA]Crazy Then normal balancing will move Noob to team 2. Normal balancing is done after dispersal, unless certain overriding settings, such as Enable Low Population Adjustments, are in play. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: Dispersion list doesn't care about clan tagsThat is not correct. It cares about names and/or tags and/or EA GUIDs. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
ImportBot Posted November 1, 2014 Author Share Posted November 1, 2014 Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*: After someone has help they guy above Please can somebody help me with setting this plugin up. I run a 32 player conquest large server 800 tickets and would like it to be as fair as possible.I have gone through the getting started section "../page1/index.html&p=84642&viewfull=1#post84642" and gone with those settings but changed tickets to 800 and did not do the scramble.I cant get this plugin to work also I get WARNING:BatlelogCache is not supported for BF4 YET!What do you mean exactly by, "as fair as possible"? What do you mean exactly by "I cant get this plugin to work"? Please provide specific details. We can't help unless we understand what the goals and problems are. Everyone gets that warning about BattlelogCache, don't worry about it. Quote * Restored post. It could be that the author is no longer active. Link to comment
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