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Originally Posted by Jasonpb*:

 

Tried using this again and just had too many problems with queues getting stuck so turned it off again.

 

Our servers fill up fast anyway but how it did help was kept certain instances running longer than they normally would in the early hours of the morning.

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

Tried using this again and just had too many problems with queues getting stuck so turned it off again.

 

Our servers fill up fast anyway but how it did help was kept certain instances running longer than they normally would in the early hours of the morning.

The fast filling together with the 4 player start may cause this issue .

Let me explain my situation and why it happens.

 

My server 64 player server has the minimum of 4 player start.

When 0 players in the server -> 64 slots

When 1-7 players in the server -> 64 slots

When 8-21 players in the server -> 24 slots

When 22-29 players in the server -> 32 slots

etc

 

When 8 players join the empty server almost simultaneously the plugin scales back the slots to 24.

Because the 4 player start threshold has been reached, most of the time the round is restarted with 24 active slots.

 

Once a round started on that 24 slots, no more than 24 players can join that round.

 

So it's best to set the maximum slots of the server for a longer population period.

For instance: 1-4 players in the server -> 24 slots is a troublesome setting.

 

Set that to: 1-10 players in the server -> 64 slots and you hardly ever have issues

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Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*:

 

Hmmm.... people use this plug-in? I have never had to use this plug-in, I just leave it at 64 and it fills up on its own and stays full for most of the 24 hrs ;-)

Congrats i guess? It's not about needing to use this plugin, this plugin isn't about making population possible. Everyone's top servers fill up and stay full. This plugin causes them to fill faster than they already do if something happens with battlelog or something else unforeseen happens. It's good for rankings.
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Originally Posted by Jasonpb*:

 

EBassie, tried those settings and thanks for the recommendation :ohmy: At first it seemed to work but eventually same thing happened again, stuck on 48 players this time though.

 

We generally leave a big enough cap between the actual player count and what the plugin is set to, but even still it just seems to jam up sometimes, I don't think it likes the DDoS attacks we get hit with, which I think is what screws it up, or the blaze disconnects.

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Originally Posted by Mandizzy*:

 

Congrats i guess? It's not about needing to use this plugin, this plugin isn't about making population possible. Everyone's top servers fill up and stay full. This plugin causes them to fill faster than they already do if something happens with battlelog or something else unforeseen happens. It's good for rankings.

It's good for rankings! So some people use it to manipulate their server ranks by adjusting the available slots and hence keeping it full. That's kind of like using that paid fake players service to seed and manipulate ranks. Well I guess I shouldn't be shocked, some people will use anything and everything to get to top. I have a shitload of these people on my metabans list :smile:

 

In my experience, using this plug-in will make your server disappear from server browser and you will actually lose players. Players for the most part know where they want to play i.e. a 32, 48 or 64 player server. Thus they actually make use of the "Game Size" filter. Now if someone is only looking for populated 64 size servers then having this plug-in is detrimental to attracting new players as they will never find it until it switches to 64 size. There's one more downside to this, some people actually may join your server because they don't like 64 size, they might prefer 32 or 48. However, dynamically switching the size to 64 during game will probably cause you to lose those players too and probably forever once they know it's actually 64.

 

Just my $0.02

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Originally Posted by Singh400*:

 

In my experience, using this plug-in will make your server disappear from server browser and you will actually lose players. Players for the most part know where they want to play i.e. a 32, 48 or 64 player server. Thus they actually make use of the "Game Size" filter. Now if someone is only looking for populated 64 size servers then having this plug-in is detrimental to attracting new players as they will never find it until it switches to 64 size. There's one more downside to this, some people actually may join your server because they don't like 64 size, they might prefer 32 or 48. However, dynamically switching the size to 64 during game will probably cause you to lose those players too and probably forever once they know it's actually 64.

I've had the complete opposite experience. Without ASS there is no way in hell I would have made the top 10 rankings and stayed there. I credit this plugin and Insane Limits with that achievement.
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Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*:

 

It's good for rankings! So some people use it to manipulate their server ranks by adjusting the available slots and hence keeping it full. That's kind of like using that paid fake players service to seed and manipulate ranks. Well I guess I shouldn't be shocked, some people will use anything and everything to get to top. I have a shitload of these people on my metabans list :smile:

 

In my experience, using this plug-in will make your server disappear from server browser and you will actually lose players. Players for the most part know where they want to play i.e. a 32, 48 or 64 player server. Thus they actually make use of the "Game Size" filter. Now if someone is only looking for populated 64 size servers then having this plug-in is detrimental to attracting new players as they will never find it until it switches to 64 size. There's one more downside to this, some people actually may join your server because they don't like 64 size, they might prefer 32 or 48. However, dynamically switching the size to 64 during game will probably cause you to lose those players too and probably forever once they know it's actually 64.

 

Just my $0.02

We wondered about these points as well, but decided to test it anyway, and the results don't lie. We've tested this for months on end, and the servers fill faster with it on, with the correct settings of course.

 

However, to your point about using anything and everything, try thinking about it from the other direction. The way we see it, it's like auto-erotic asphyxiation, you are starving yourself of something that could help you because not doing it gets you off in some way. There is no "holier than thou" status here, this is battlefield. Falcon made this plugin to help himself and his fellow clans/admins. If you don't want to use it, that's your choice, but don't deny its usefulness. Servers fill faster. :smile:

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Originally Posted by Mandizzy*:

 

I actually found my server starving for players when I tried this plug-in in early days of BF3. Frankly, I don't really know if it is useful - you all could be having a positive experience with it and I'm missing out OR you all could be under the placebo effect :tongue:

 

Anyhow, I wasn't actually putting down the plug-in itself, just the inventive way some might be using it to artificially gain ranks - that's all.

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Originally Posted by Jasonpb*:

 

It makes a difference, we were running this plugin for a long long time and you definitely get the "quick join" players faster with it on, given it's towards the end of bf3 even with the constant DDoS attacks our servers fill up within a few minutes of them emptying out so really hard to tell.

 

I am curious to know what these "special" settings are, the plugin worked for the best part of a year and a bit before it started to break after an update, the DDoS attacks also cause the server queue to show full and the players drop off to 0 so 0:60[10]

 

I have had regular members tell me they can't find my servers, not everyone makes them favorites and a lot of people do filter on 64 players, so i do see your point as well

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Originally Posted by RazorliteX*:

 

It makes a difference, we were running this plugin for a long long time and you definitely get the "quick join" players faster with it on, given it's towards the end of bf3 even with the constant DDoS attacks our servers fill up within a few minutes of them emptying out so really hard to tell.

 

I am curious to know what these "special" settings are, the plugin worked for the best part of a year and a bit before it started to break after an update, the DDoS attacks also cause the server queue to show full and the players drop off to 0 so 0:60[10]

 

I have had regular members tell me they can't find my servers, not everyone makes them favorites and a lot of people do filter on 64 players, so i do see your point as well

Yeah the plugin started to freeze once they released that patch just before the End Game DLC. We used to use it all the time, now we just use it sparingly and then switch it off once we have around 20-30 players on the servers.
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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

BF4 Early Feature Request

 

Given how RSP's are pricing servers and suggesting configurations (NFO FAQ has a configuration of a 62 slot servers with 32 players and 30 observers), I am going to want a plugin, preferably this one, that switches commander slots to either player slots or observer slots on non-commander modes, like TDM(I think_). In general, we will need a plugin that can optimize our slot allocation between players, commanders and observers, without causing too much churn on the Battlelog server browser.

 

I know there is no info available yet, but I think this requirement is a safe bet.

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Originally Posted by Jasonpb*:

 

BF4 Early Feature Request

 

Given how RSP's are pricing servers and suggesting configurations (NFO FAQ has a configuration of a 62 slot servers with 32 players and 30 observers), I am going to want a plugin, preferably this one, that switches commander slots to either player slots or observer slots on non-commander modes, like TDM(I think_). In general, we will need a plugin that can optimize our slot allocation between players, commanders and observers, without causing too much churn on the Battlelog server browser.

 

I know there is no info available yet, but I think this requirement is a safe bet.

A reliable source suggested that at a minimum there has to be 4x observers and 2x commanders, so if you wanted a 64x slot instance you'd be paying for 70x slots, otherwise they'd eat into your player slots, i.e. on a 64x slot instance only 58x slots would be available for players if you didn't purchase the extra slots.

 

I have nfi why anyone would want to pay for observers, I know I sure as hell don't, i'd be happy for empty slots to be used as "observer slots" but that's about it, same as the commander slots, I think at first people will use them and then no one will, add up 5-6x instances of "observer slots & commander slots" and it adds up quickly, especially when most of the listed prices now for bf4 are between 140-180AUD per 64x slot instance.

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Originally Posted by CalibeR-50*:

 

Could you please force that the server title has to display the actual server size to work? Your plugin destroys the game. I want to play 16 slots, not 64, but because of this plugin I can't just search for 16 Slots Servers.

 

To admins who don't display the slots: Shut your server down, you are a bad admin.

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Originally Posted by EBassie*:

 

Could you please force that the server title has to display the actual server size to work? Your plugin destroys the game. I want to play 16 slots, not 64, but because of this plugin I can't just search for 16 Slots Servers.

 

To admins who don't display the slots: Shut your server down, you are a bad admin.

It's not like ALL servers are using this plugin. Plenty of server to choose from. Although 16 slot servers are pretty rare (for a reason, as the majority of players want to play on large servers)

 

And frankly, I do not like your attitude towards admins who use this plugin to get their expensive servers going day after day.

 

Just a question, did it take you two years to come up with this comment as your first post?

 

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Originally Posted by Roughneck2-0*:

 

Hello.

 

Did anyone try this wonderful plugin's Idle Timer features on Battlefield 4 game-servers?

 

Been using it forever on Battlefield 3, but haven gotten around to it in 4 yet.

 

 

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Originally Posted by jumbo*:

 

I'm trying it and first impressions look good (need more players on the server to be sure). I gave a small donation towards Ultimate Map Manager before and will be donating again towards a BF4 version of UMM. Forcing the server onto official mode until the servers start filling up would be a handy feature

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Originally Posted by HappyGotLucky*:

 

This plugin has been hit and miss so far on BF4. Lot of glitching, slots not setting to 64 on round end so it gets stuck at a lower number than the max.

 

Though I suspect it's more to do with game server issues than the plugin.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

I'm doing some initial testing now. I only have an empty server to test on, though, so I can only test the basics. So far, I don't see any issues.

 

If there really are legitimate issues, I'm going to need more detail from people, though. Please read this post before reporting a bug:

showthread....a-plugin-issue*

 

Without all of that info and the proper logs, there's not much I can do to diagnose your problem if I can't replicate it.

 

I should also take this opportunity to say please DONATE for tools and plugins that you use to operate your server effectively! Developers have put in a lot of effort to create and maintain these tools and plugins. And we're not requiring you to pay $90 a month like your GSP or anything, so please throw us a bone! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Singh400*:

 

I'm doing some initial testing now. I only have an empty server to test on, though, so I can only test the basics. So far, I don't see any issues.

 

If there really are legitimate issues, I'm going to need more detail from people, though. Please read this post before reporting a bug:

showthread....a-plugin-issue*

 

Without all of that info and the proper logs, there's not much I can do to diagnose your problem if I can't replicate it.

 

I should also take this opportunity to say please DONATE for tools and plugins that you use to operate your server effectively! Developers have put in a lot of effort to create and maintain these tools and plugins. And we're not requiring you to pay $90 a month like your GSP or anything, so please throw us a bone! Thanks!

I'm sure plenty of admins here can offer a few servers for testing and will be willing to give you access to.
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Originally Posted by tonnic*:

 

I'm doing some initial testing now. I only have an empty server to test on, though, so I can only test the basics. So far, I don't see any issues.

 

If there really are legitimate issues, I'm going to need more detail from people, though. Please read this post before reporting a bug:

showthread....a-plugin-issue*

 

Without all of that info and the proper logs, there's not much I can do to diagnose your problem if I can't replicate it.

 

I should also take this opportunity to say please DONATE for tools and plugins that you use to operate your server effectively! Developers have put in a lot of effort to create and maintain these tools and plugins. And we're not requiring you to pay $90 a month like your GSP or anything, so please throw us a bone! Thanks!

I have 2 64man servers that are usually full that I can test it on... is the plugin available for download?
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