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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Hey PapaCharlie9, is there a way of adding an Exclusion list to exclude players from "Minutes after being moved" ?

 

I have it set to 90, but there's a guy who joins late at nights and he really unbalances our server on jet maps, and I want the balancer to just move him when needed, I don't really care about him complaining or anything.

Is he a Colonel 100? Currently, that would be the only way to force him to be moved in less time, and then that would only happen if Colonel 100's weren't balanced and you disable Lenient Rank Dispersal.

 

What you are asking for is a Blacklist, which is not implemented currently.

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Originally Posted by kcuestag*:

 

Is he a Colonel 100? Currently, that would be the only way to force him to be moved in less time, and then that would only happen if Colonel 100's weren't balanced and you disable Lenient Rank Dispersal.

 

What you are asking for is a Blacklist, which is not implemented currently.

He is indeed Colonel 100, but I don't want other 100's to be affected as well. :sad:

 

I want something like this: Team A is losing, change player X, if it happens again, keep giving priority to move that player X.

 

I don't want to ban him off our server as we don't ban people for being skilled, but this guy is beyond skilled with jets and he really unbalances our server, so the only thing I can think of to get rid of him is have the balancer annoy him all the time.

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Originally Posted by ColColonCleaner*:

 

He is indeed Colonel 100, but I don't want other 100's to be affected as well. :sad:

 

I want something like this: Team A is losing, change player X, if it happens again, keep giving priority to move that player X.

 

I don't want to ban him off our server as we don't ban people for being skilled, but this guy is beyond skilled with jets and he really unbalances our server, so the only thing I can think of to get rid of him is have the balancer annoy him all the time.

That would be interesting to have, a list of players who you know will empty the server from being so good. We have plenty of players like that, the problem is you would have to admin kill them to call the move because most of the time they don't die during a match. This could be viewed as a personal hitlist though, as those players are the only ones targeted. Don't like somebody? Boom, on the list, they'll never win a match on your servers again. Just saying it could be abused, there are some terrible admins out there and now they have a seemingly invisible tool for their own benefit.
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Originally Posted by kcuestag*:

 

That would be interesting to have, a list of players who you know will empty the server from being so good. We have plenty of players like that, the problem is you would have to admin kill them to call the move because most of the time they don't die during a match. This could be viewed as a personal hitlist though, as those players are the only ones targeted. Don't like somebody? Boom, on the list, they'll never win a match on your servers again. Just saying it could be abused, there are some terrible admins out there and now they have a seemingly invisible tool for their own benefit.

Honestly, it's either forcing them to losing team all the time, or banning him, and I don't think it's fair to ban someone because he's good, but I also don't think it's fair he empties my server almost every night...

 

So I'm not quite sure what to do to be honest...

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Originally Posted by FISHBONE89*:

 

I'm not sure...

 

"Disperse Evenly By Rank >=: Number greater than or equal to 0 and less than or equal to 145, default 0. Any players with this absolute rank (Colonel 100 is 145) or higher will be dispersed evenly across teams. This is useful to insure that Colonel 100 ranked players don't all stack on one team. Set to 0 to disable."

 

0 is to disable, but I want to enable splits Colonel 100's between teams. Then I should set to 145?

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Originally Posted by Blitz*:

 

I'm not sure...

 

"Disperse Evenly By Rank >=: Number greater than or equal to 0 and less than or equal to 145, default 0. Any players with this absolute rank (Colonel 100 is 145) or higher will be dispersed evenly across teams. This is useful to insure that Colonel 100 ranked players don't all stack on one team. Set to 0 to disable."

 

0 is to disable, but I want to enable splits Colonel 100's between teams. Then I should set to 145?

Yes.
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Originally Posted by tarreltje*:

 

Im still getting questions from my clanmates on our TDM server if the balancer cant put all the clan members in 1 team during the scramble automaticly, because sometimes the server is full and people cant switch. Is this doable?

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Originally Posted by Singh400*:

 

Im still getting questions from my clanmates on our TDM server if the balancer cant put all the clan members in 1 team during the scramble automaticly, because sometimes the server is full and people cant switch. Is this doable?

If I remember correctly no balancing can be done when the server is full because in BF3 there is a "holding"/"temp" team (whereas there was in BC2) to move players too if that makes sense. It may be that I'm remembering incorrectly or Charlie worked his magic and found a solution for it.
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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Im still getting questions from my clanmates on our TDM server if the balancer cant put all the clan members in 1 team during the scramble automaticly, because sometimes the server is full and people cant switch. Is this doable?

Have you tried the Keep Clan Tags In Same Team setting for Scrambler? It tries to put all the same tags on the same team, but if that unbalances teams it can't do it. For example, if your clan has 12 players playing and the server only has 20 players, it can't put all of your clan on one team.

 

There are also problems with locked squads and the game server doing some unpredictable stuff, so it won't work 100% of the time. But it will try and most of your clan should end up on one team every scramble.

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Originally Posted by FLirtY-3D*:

 

I had to disable this plugin, got too many complaints... And all the settings, it's just too much. :huh:

have to admit way to much going on with this plugin to no if you comming or going cant it be made simpler ?
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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

I've only used this plugin sparingly so can't really comment, but are the default settings good for most? What would be optimum for say CQ and Rush? Other modes? I used to use Insane Balancer back in the day so need something robust for BF4.

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

have to admit way to much going on with this plugin to no if you comming or going cant it be made simpler ?

I've only used this plugin sparingly so can't really comment, but are the default settings good for most? What would be optimum for say CQ and Rush? Other modes? I used to use Insane Balancer back in the day so need something robust for BF4.

Have you tried using the Settings Wizard? That should simplify setup of the plugin, particularly if you run multiple modes, like CQ and Rush.

 

Also, leave Unstacking disabled. That's the biggest cause of complaint if you haven't tuned it carefully.

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Originally Posted by TMiland*:

 

Have you tried using the Settings Wizard? That should simplify setup of the plugin, particularly if you run multiple modes, like CQ and Rush.

 

Also, leave Unstacking disabled. That's the biggest cause of complaint if you haven't tuned it carefully.

I have tried most combinations, and there seems to always be something that makes it kind of useless, don't get me wrong, you have done an amazing job with the plugin, but my head explodes every time i try to configure it.

 

It also balances my clan-mates, even though i have them in the white-list and reserved slots list.

 

There is so much going on, and i just feel like it should be more simplified , if that is possible...

 

And when using the settings wizard, things get disabled, and when enabling the settings disabled the preset gets disabled for the unstacking preset, and that just makes my head go round and around lol! :biggrin:

 

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Originally Posted by SnotGoblin*:

 

It also balances my clan-mates, even though i have them in the white-list and reserved slots list.

Disable the white listing on the reserved slots!

Just add your clan tag to the whitelist :ohmy:

 

Multibalancer is nothing short of awesome if you want close games IMO :smile:

 

We still get people moan about being shifted, as n00bs want the last joiner to be team swapped etc..

Just put the correct messages into spambot! Telling them theyre awesome players if it swaps them,

and that it wont swap them anymore for 90 mins etc etc...

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Originally Posted by jking54*:

 

3rd line from the top?

 

Enable Settings Wizard! Enable it, will open up other options etc.

Oh Jesus, now I see it :P Thanks Snot :ohmy: By the way lowest and highest tickets, how does this work exactly? My server is set up at the moment for 1000 tickets, sometimes I change it so hence my question.
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Originally Posted by tarreltje*:

 

Yesterday evening, i have seen, on my server, during scoreboard, US had like 6 players left and RU 13. There were 20 secs left before the balancer should kick in, but due this difference more people left i think, since the teams werent balanced yet!

 

Isnt it posible to balance 2 times during score board? The first 1 to get even players in teams, and the last 1 for the real balancing?

 

I know i can set the balancer to scramble like half time, but still people can leave just before the game starts!

 

Can i use insane balancer to do the first scramble, and then MB, or will this totaly screw up both teams?

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Originally Posted by SnotGoblin*:

 

I have tried that too, and just when it matters the most, my mates gets switched over...

Are they level 100? and do you have rank dispursement on?

 

I have seen this happen if you have turned rank dispursement on, and your friends are lvl100 (145).

 

Its a conflict, you tell them to whitelist, but then you tell the balancer to split them cos of the lvl100

If its turned on, then disabled it :smile:

 

If the balancer splits people who are whitelisted, it is usually because you have a conflicting setting elsewhere :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Oh Jesus, now I see it :P Thanks Snot :ohmy: By the way lowest and highest tickets, how does this work exactly? My server is set up at the moment for 1000 tickets, sometimes I change it so hence my question.

This is due to not every map having the same max tickets. Some have 300, some 200, some 350, etc. So unless you are running a plugin that forces each map to have exactly 1000 tickets, or you only run one map, or you only run maps that have the same max, you need to specify a different highest max and the lowest max. So for example, if you have one map that is 300 and another than is 350, you highest would be 350 and your lowest 300. If you have gameModeCounter set to 200, then your high would be 700 and your low 600.

 

If all your maps have the same max, just use the same number for high and low.

 

Make sense?

 

See this table for all the maps and their max tickets:

 

myrcon.net/.../table-of-starting-ticket-counts-vs-varsgamemodecounter-and-factions-by-map

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Originally Posted by PapaCharlie9*:

 

Can i use insane balancer to do the first scramble, and then MB, or will this totaly screw up both teams?

I'm not sure what you mean by "first scramble". You can't do two scrambles between rounds, that would really cause crazy results.

 

If you can turn the during-round balancer for Insane Balancer off and only use it for between-round scrambling, that would be ok. You must disable MB's scrambler in that case.

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Originally Posted by tarreltje*:

 

It was just a weird brainstorm :P. From what i have seen, just when a round was finished US had like 6 players left an RU like 12 players. So it was totaly unbalanced. If the balancer isnt kicking in fast a lot of people of the US team will leave, due unbalanced teams.

 

So i was thinking maby it should be posible to have a balancing/scramble 2 times during scoreboard. The first balancing for the situation above, and the last balance/scramble near end of the round.

 

 

Also maby for the next version:

 

A forced balancing in early fase. I have seen when my server is going empty, often the teams are unbalanced due people are leaving. I have seen this problem this morning i had 6 people left, 2 in US and 4 in RU.

 

If the players in US are kinda bad, they get raped by RU and wont make any kills, and since the balancer waits till death, none balancing will be done, and the 2 players of team US will leave, and at this point the server is dead..

 

So maby an option with forced balancing till x players are online.

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Originally Posted by SnotGoblin*:

 

Anyone using "Enable Unstacking"? If so, how is it working out?

I run team unstacking on all CQ servers, works brilliant, though you need to tune it to each server and ticket count :ohmy:

 

We get a lot of very close down to the wire games thanks to this plugin! Close games were very rare prior to this, now most games seesaw a bit till the last 150-200 tickets!

 

The hardest thing to set the plugin for is the Assault conquest maps, as they can be whitewashed due to capping the flags! The plugin cannot allow for this situation, but you have a max tickets diff now for unstacking to occur.

In saying that though, our Karkand 24/7 Server runs it and most games are very close indeed!

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