Adaptive Server Size (1.3.5.3 - 06/14/15)

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Originally Posted by jolli*:

 

Hi Guys,

 

Ran the Plugin Last night with a 64 Player server, i have set the lower limit to 16 player in my case and from what i saw the adaptive Plugin did what was advertised, the server on start up reported 16 player once it hit the 15 player limit it moved to 32 and so on till it hit 64 players. all good so far !

 

 

JOLLI

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

The idle kicker has an option named "minimum players on server". This is the minimum number of players the idle kicker starts kicking ilde players. So if I set this number to 24 no idle players will be kicked until there are 24 players on the server. This funktion is also meant to help filling the server. But if the number is reduced to 8 by the "adaptive server size" the idle kicker starts kicking when there are 8 people on the server,

This has nothing to do with this plugin. The latest patch disabled the ability to disable the idle kick, so now, all idle players will always get kicked after 5 minutes, regardless of any plugin you may be running. Disable this plugin and you'll get the same result.

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Originally Posted by pharbehind*:

 

Except the whole point of this plugin was to catch the players who didnt look.

idk, I had the plugin on all morning, but when I turned it off it seemed to fill up quicker. I'll turn it on tomorrow and do some more tests to see how effective it is for me.

 

rather, I'll turn it on my 32 slot server since that one is empty.

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Originally Posted by Frakkas*:

 

I wish I had a better repro for you (it's probably not caused by this plugin, but could be an issue for it) - we were rocking and rolling, full up to 64 (thanks!), and when a round ended, I tried to update the maplist and crashed the server. I can't recall the map operations, specifically, and it's probably not this plugin, but beware of making maplist changes during a round change (maybe that's obvious).

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

Hey, i love the idea of the plugin and it works realy good. But there is a little problem. It is not accurate enough.

 

For example: At roundstart, you have 12 Players on the server. Since on every roundstart the server jumps to 64, 5 new players join. Because Serverinfo doesn't see the joining Players (you can see players in the neutrall team, but 0 infront of "neutral". The server will be cut down to 16 players, not allowing one of the 5 joining players to join. Or am i mistaken? I recognized, that my server tried to cut down to 16, but stayed at 64 because there have been allraedy 17 Players on the server. Is this possible?

 

My idea of a solution:

OnListPlayer gives a better playercount on the server than ServerInfo. It counts the exact number of players who have joined and is also fired every 30 seconds like ServerInfo. So the change to your program shouldn't be so much i guess.

 

Code:

public override void OnListPlayers(List<CPlayerInfo> lstPlayers, CPlayerSubset cpsSubset) {
playersonserver = lstPlayers.Count;
}

With this your plugin coud react on what is happening on the server much faster.

I recognized that i had 16/16 Player for a very long time until OnServerInfo recognized the players.

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Originally Posted by Freekers*:

 

Hey, i love the idea of the plugin and it works realy good. But there is a little problem. It is not accurate enough.

 

For example: At roundstart, you have 12 Players on the server. Since on every roundstart the server jumps to 64, 5 new players join. Because Serverinfo doesn't see the joining Players (you can see players in the neutrall team, but 0 infront of "neutral". The server will be cut down to 16 players, not allowing one of the 5 joining players to join. Or am i mistaken? I recognized, that my server tried to cut down to 16, but stayed at 64 because there have been allraedy 17 Players on the server. Is this possible?

 

My idea of a solution:

OnListPlayer gives a better playercount on the server than ServerInfo. It counts the exact number of players who have joined and is also fired every 30 seconds like ServerInfo. So the change to your program shouldn't be so much i guess.

 

Code:

public override void OnListPlayers(List<CPlayerInfo> lstPlayers, CPlayerSubset cpsSubset) {
playersonserver = lstPlayers.Count;
}

With this your plugin coud react on what is happening on the server much faster.

I recognized that i had 16/16 Player for a very long time until OnServerInfo recognized the players.

+1

 

I temporarily solved this problem by making the difference between player slots larger, as I also had a full limited slot server (e.g. 18/18) for a long period of time.

 

Apart from that, great plugin!

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Originally Posted by Globel*:

 

can people post what settings are working well for them. I am currently setting the player count 8 slots a head when I am within 4 it moves up another 8 slots. Not wokring that good at the start.

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Originally Posted by GitSum*:

 

Globel - I think you need to figure out what your 'target' group is. They have those two filters in Battlelog: Free Slots 1-5 or Free Slots 6-10

 

If your trying to get players looking for servers that are almost full (less that 5 open slots) then set your player size about 4 slots higher than the number of players. Or if you going after the 6-10 group, set it 8 higher or so

 

Another option is - some people are only looking for certain size servers so you may just want to jump up to the standard sizes 16, 24, 32, 48, etc

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Originally Posted by DaBubba*:

 

I too would like to see what settings people are using for a 64 slot conquest server. Since R9 patch, server doesn't fill up anymore, average about 8-10 players then dies. Also should I enable - On startup, assume round started at max server size? Not sure what that does. Anyone willing to post their settings? Would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

I wish I had a better repro for you (it's probably not caused by this plugin, but could be an issue for it) - we were rocking and rolling, full up to 64 (thanks!), and when a round ended, I tried to update the maplist and crashed the server. I can't recall the map operations, specifically, and it's probably not this plugin, but beware of making maplist changes during a round change (maybe that's obvious).

This is definitely unrelated. I've done this before myself with no plugins loaded.

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Originally Posted by GitSum*:

 

Enable adaptive QuickMatch settings = yes

Default round start player count = 4 (game will start with 4 players)

Default round restart player count = 2

 

Assume round started at max server size = no

Maximum server size =64

 

set your Size with XX players using whatever strategy you want - 4 over actual players, 8 over actual players or standard server sizes

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Originally Posted by M4xL0ng*:

 

Awesome! Thanks! +1! I like!

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Originally Posted by Freekers*:

 

Assume round started at max server size = no

I have that one set to yes also.. From the description I don't see that it can hurt by not doing so.

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Originally Posted by DaBubba*:

 

Thanks GitSum, that's what I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

OnListPlayer gives a better playercount on the server than ServerInfo. It counts the exact number of players who have joined and is also fired every 30 seconds like ServerInfo. So the change to your program shouldn't be so much i guess.

Looking into this.

 

EDIT: But my server remains empty, so I'm not accomplishing much. If you're bored, so I can test this.

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Originally Posted by PBSGTS*:

 

Looking into this.

 

EDIT: But my server remains empty, so I'm not accomplishing much. If you're bored, so I can test this.

Your server looks full to me.

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Originally Posted by WaxMyCarrot*:

 

Our server in ProCon shows 10/16 right now... but in battlelog shows 10/64.. the pluin says "16 players online. Server size set to 16. Round started at 64.

 

Settings:

Enable adaptive server size? Yes

On startup assume server started at max server size? No

Maximum Server Size? 64

0=8

1=8

2=8

3=8

4=8

5=8

6=16

7=16

8=16

9=16

10=16

11=16

12=16

13=32

14=32

15=32

16=32

 

and so on.. I left these settings as they where.

 

We are only running LrgConquest maps.

 

Am I doing something wrong that it is showing 10/64 instead of 10/16 in battlelog?

 

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...-0d00a911743c/

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Originally Posted by PBSGTS*:

 

Our server in ProCon shows 10/16 right now... but in battlelog shows 10/64.. the pluin says "16 players online. Server size set to 16. Round started at 64.

 

Settings:

Enable adaptive server size? Yes

On startup assume server started at max server size? No

Maximum Server Size? 64

0=8

1=8

2=8

3=8

4=8

5=8

6=16

7=16

8=16

9=16

10=16

11=16

12=16

13=32

14=32

15=32

16=32

 

and so on.. I left these settings as they where.

 

We are only running LrgConquest maps.

 

Am I doing something wrong that it is showing 10/64 instead of 10/16 in battlelog?

 

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...-0d00a911743c/

I actually had a similar problem earlier today. I just disabled/enabled the plugin and that seemed to fix it.

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Originally Posted by WaxMyCarrot*:

 

Wierd.. when we reached 13 players it DID switch to 13/32 in battlelog AND ProCon

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Wierd.. when we reached 13 players it DID switch to 13/32 in battlelog AND ProCon

I've noticed that Battlelog occasionally doesn't update the max players properly. It's nothing I have control over though. It usually fixes itself when the next map loads.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

OnListPlayer gives a better playercount on the server than ServerInfo. It counts the exact number of players who have joined and is also fired every 30 seconds like ServerInfo. So the change to your program shouldn't be so much i guess.

Upon some investigation, this isn't the case. OnListPlayer always shows the same number of players that ServerInfo shows. However, when someone clicks "Join Server" in Battlelog, OnAuthenticated is called, so I may be able to use this as a trigger to increase the number of players. I'll start working on that, but I'll be gone/busy over Thanksgiving, so don't expect anything until later this weekend.

 

EDIT: Well, onAuthenticated is a server event, but there's no corresponding PRoCon event, so I don't have any way to access it. :/

 

EDIT2: However, after a player is authenticated, a Punkbuster message is sent, and there is a PRoCon event for PunkBuster messages, so there may still be some hope.

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Originally Posted by Phil_K*:

 

EDIT: Well, onAuthenticated is a server event, but there's no corresponding PRoCon event, so I don't have any way to access it. :/

Well, have you tried

Code:

public virtual void OnPlayerAuthenticated(string soldierName, string guid) { }

onAuthenticated is a double of onJoin with the only difference that it doesn't include the EA_GUID and i wonder why they left it in as during beta it was discussed that it could be canceled. The even switched the information comared to BC2, there onJoin has only the playername and onAuth includes the guid). Even so it is the second information of 3 stages (join, auth, spawn). You can use

Code:

public virtual void OnPlayerJoin(string soldierName) {

But it can happen that a player cuts the connection and you get no OnPlayerLeft for him.

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Originally Posted by Panther*:

 

Hey falcon, yeah i have checked it too. You are right. My mistake. This is realy bad. I use onListPlayer for my autobalancer and did never recognize that. It does not effect my balancer but it is realy hard for a plugin like yours.

 

If you use onPlayerJoin, your Plugin can react much faster, but as Phil said, if a players looses connection, there won't be a player left. Which could again lead to some problems for your plugin. The solution is somewhere out there, but this will be a hard nut to break .

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Yeah. I have some ideas of how to work around it. I'll try to get to it this weekend, after I'm done with all of the family stuff. You probably won't hear from me the next couple of days. Everyone have a Happy Thanksgiving!

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Originally Posted by 017*:

 

Hey, would it be possible for you to have a minimum player count for gamemodes as well? I run a 64 slot server, so it tends to make things difficult. Eight players doesn't exactly make for a great situation on conquest large.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Hey, would it be possible for you to have a minimum player count for gamemodes as well? I run a 64 slot server, so it tends to make things difficult. Eight players doesn't exactly make for a great situation on conquest large.

Do you run your server in mixed mode? If so, don't try filling your server using Conquest Large mode, and if not, just change all of the "Size with X players" options that are set to 8 to 16 (or whatever you want).

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Originally Posted by Frakkas*:

 

Looks like I'm seeing some flakiness with R10 - I had to go set the start/restart counts manually in procon even after restarting the round.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Looks like I'm seeing some flakiness with R10 - I had to go set the start/restart counts manually in procon even after restarting the round.

I can't replicate your issue. No problems here.

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Originally Posted by HelloKitty*:

 

Have that Plugin running on 5 servers.The only Bug that occured sometimes is: When the server crashes and autorestarts, the Plugins sometimes stops working and stucks on its actual serversize. Manual size adjustment + Stop/Start the Plugin helps.

 

some statistics:

Generally it is no difference, with or without the plugin active as long as there are less then 4 players on the server. Once you have 4 players, the plugin really helps - is my feeling.

 

64 slot Conquest:

joined with 4 guys without the plugin on size 64 - got 6 more players within 30 mins. Activated Plugin and server was full in another 7 minutes.

 

32 slot Rush:

joined with 4 guys without the plugin on size 32 - got 4 more players in 25 mins. Activated Plugin and server was full in another 5 minutes.

 

32 slot MixedMode:

joined with 4 guys with activated plugin on size 8 - and server was full in 10 minutes.

 

Teamdeathmatch makes no real difference.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Have that Plugin running on 5 servers.The only Bug that occured sometimes is: When the server crashes and autorestarts, the Plugins sometimes stops working and stucks on its actual serversize. Manual size adjustment + Stop/Start the Plugin helps.

It sounds like you need to set your server to start at max size and turn on the "On startup, assume round started at max server size" option.

 

Also, thanks for the statistics! I would agree that the server needs to be seeded with 4 players, especially after the R9 patch.