Ultimate Map Manager (1.2.5.0 - 03/26/15)

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Originally Posted by WDT-TardFarmer*:

 

Or you host Procon with your own VDS, where you can manage "everything" on your own.

Yes, I just host mine off my server at home, It's much easier and free

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Originally Posted by staazvaind*:

 

i had one on my v-server but it was always buggy and linux is not my world so

i had to invest more time then its worth.

 

finally the def file is up2date.

 

i believe this all happened due to the strict securacy policies of the hoster.

or is there any other reason to not let the customer handle the config folder

via ftp on his own ? i doubt it.

 

thats probably also the reason why the autoupdate failed.

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Originally Posted by memickey*:

 

I was not able to fix my Procon Layer server so I took the job starting from scratch with a fresh Procon and added all the plugins I use and configured these. It was a success, everything now works perfectly :-)

 

I can't say what the reason was for our server running Siege Of Shanghai all evening yesterday since I did a number of things yesterday :

1. Updated the BF4.def file from the net (both Layer server and clients)

2. Changed the maprotation to include the new maps from S.A.

3. Removed the maps from S.A. since it was emptying our server when they appeared.

 

After this we were stuck at Siege Of Shanghai for the rest of the evening. The strange thing was that it was running the correct maplist but only one map was active on the server.

In addition to this xVotemap was also giving me problems by not working, maybe because there was only one map registered in the maplist on the server.

 

Question :

Is there a limit for how many maps a maplist can have?

I think I had 18 maps in my maplist yesterday and only 17 of them was visible in the serverinfo in Battlelog.

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Originally Posted by IAF-SDS*:

 

I was not able to fix my Procon Layer server so I took the job starting from scratch with a fresh Procon and added all the plugins I use and configured these. It was a success, everything now works perfectly :-)

It is a major bug with the R26 patch that is causing the maplist issue, and there is a lot of discussion about this in the other threads. DICE made some changes on their backend which has minimized this issue but not completely resolved it yet. It's not as bad, but it still happens sometimes.

 

The same issues are being reported by several other people at the link below and the discussion goes on for at least three pages:

 

showthread....ll=1#post96612*

 

 

 

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@Falcon

 

Yesterday, I was adding various custom presets for different maps and different game modes, and because I have different configurations as well as utilizing the two presets for each map, I ended up with 19 custom presets to choose from. At 19 custom presets, UMM took away all presets from each map and I also lost the menu to add/remove custom presets.

 

Since I could no longer delete custom presets, I had to go into the config file and manually delete a couple presets then restart procon. Once I deleted presets to get it below 19 custom preset options, all of my maps had their presets back and I now saw the manage presets menu return.

 

Currently, there are 10 game modes and will likely be more in the future. If you want to have different setups for different maps based on different game modes, the amount of custom presets one could use adds up quick.

 

Is there a limit to how many custom presets you can have?

 

If so, is it possible to increase this so we don't hit the issue I describe above?

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Yesterday, I was adding various custom presets for different maps and different game modes, and because I have different configurations as well as utilizing the two presets for each map, I ended up with 19 custom presets to choose from. At 19 custom presets, UMM took away all presets from each map and I also lost the menu to add/remove custom presets.

 

Since I could no longer delete custom presets, I had to go into the config file and manually delete a couple presets then restart procon. Once I deleted presets to get it below 19 custom preset options, all of my maps had their presets back and I now saw the manage presets menu return.

 

Currently, there are 10 game modes and will likely be more in the future. If you want to have different setups for different maps based on different game modes, the amount of custom presets one could use adds up quick.

 

Is there a limit to how many custom presets you can have?

 

If so, is it possible to increase this so we don't hit the issue I describe above?

There is no limit defined in the plugin. Maybe there's a maximum limit of the total number of options for a specific plugin or data structure, though? Someone else had mentioned that extremely large map lists cause the same issue. In cases like this, I'm not sure how to handle it, as it's beyond my control unless I can figure a workaround of some sort.

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Originally Posted by leyeti*:

 

My issue is about custom preset.

I use the Case and Format given by ProCon configurator,+ There is no blank after the last line.

Despite all this, my preset are absolutely not working.

It seems that the preset command sent after the load is the only one that is active (in the example we just play Hardcore with vehicule,(we don't want in Infantry)

What's wrong ?

Thanks for your time and support

 

My custom preset :

# Custom Preset: Hardcore Infantry

vars.preset hardcore

vars.onlySquadLeaderSpawn true

vars.miniMap true

vars.3dSpotting false

vars.miniMapSpotting false

vars.vehicleSpawnAllowed false

The way it is configured in UMM :

Game Mode : Obliteration

Map Name : Zavod 311

Rounds : 1

Preset : Hardcore Infantry

Preset (after level loads) : Hardcore

Thanks for your time and support.

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Originally Posted by IAF-SDS*:

 

There is no limit defined in the plugin. Maybe there's a maximum limit of the total number of options for a specific plugin or data structure, though? Someone else had mentioned that extremely large map lists cause the same issue. In cases like this, I'm not sure how to handle it, as it's beyond my control unless I can figure a workaround of some sort.

In BF3's UMM, I have 35 maps with the different game modes (each map has 4 options or 5 options with the Manage Map menu) and I have no issues.

 

In BF4's UMM, I only added 16 maps to test each Second Assault map with Conquest, Rush, Obliteration, and CTF to start. Then I was going to test other game modes. It wasn't until I created the 19th custom preset that I saw this happen.

 

I haven't counted Papa's MultiBalancer options, but I would think he has more options than UMM.

 

Maybe there's a max amount of options a plugin can have per Section? Im looking at MB's Rush settings section, and that has 22 options or settings for that section.

 

When I created the 19 custom presets, I also have the 3 standard presets (infantry, normal, and hardcore), which would technically make it 22 options for that section. If you add in the Manage Presets menu, that would make it 23.

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Originally Posted by pharbehind*:

 

My issue is about custom preset.

I use the Case and Format given by ProCon configurator,+ There is no blank after the last line.

Despite all this, my preset are absolutely not working.

It seems that the preset command sent after the load is the only one that is active (in the example we just play Hardcore with vehicule,(we don't want in Infantry)

What's wrong ?

Thanks for your time and support

 

My custom preset :

# Custom Preset: Hardcore Infantry

vars.preset hardcore

vars.onlySquadLeaderSpawn true

vars.miniMap true

vars.3dSpotting false

vars.miniMapSpotting false

vars.vehicleSpawnAllowed false

The way it is configured in UMM :

Game Mode : Obliteration

Map Name : Zavod 311

Rounds : 1

Preset : Hardcore Infantry

Preset (after level loads) : Hardcore

Thanks for your time and support.

Change your 2nd preset to "None" - otherwise, it's just overwritting your custom preset with the standard Hardcore preset. "vars.preset Hardcore" is a lot of variables wrapped into it. Unfortunately, your server has to be listed as custom if you want the Minimap on for all players. There's no way around this.

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Originally Posted by staazvaind*:

 

Change your 2nd preset to "None" - otherwise, it's just overwritting your custom preset with the standard Hardcore preset. "vars.preset Hardcore" is a lot of variables wrapped into it. Unfortunately, your server has to be listed as custom if you want the Minimap on for all players. There's no way around this.

no. not how it used to be before the patch.

 

i had my custom inf only hc running with two presets successfully as well.

 

preset 1 determines e.g. inf only, no vehicles spawning.

preset 2 after map load injected the hardcore setting but

vehicles couldnt spawn anymore.

 

that was good.

 

now it doesnt work anymore and i wonder why as well.

then i injected directly on the server the vars.preset hardcore and

this was given me by the server:

 

[23:35:00] vars.preset Hardcore

[23:35:00] ExecutedOnNextRound

 

tho the preset2 loading doesnt seem to work anymore ?

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

[23:35:00] vars.preset Hardcore

[23:35:00] ExecutedOnNextRound

 

tho the preset2 loading doesnt seem to work anymore ?

Good catch. I guess not. DICE watches what we do with the plugins and continues to counter them.

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Originally Posted by staazvaind*:

 

and this pretty much annoys me.

we pay for the servers... !!! .... jesus !

 

this way we would have the transports spawn that are missing on

oman in the original inf only setting which dice screwed up.

 

are they really so f***ing short sightened ?

 

there is a preset that ensures them "their" game to be running "their" way !

ITS CALLED vars.serverType OFFICIAL !!!

 

vars.serverType Ranked means that server owners set up their servers

the way they want because they pay for it so people can play with

some difference as long its no monotone statspadding...

 

 

sorry if i sound too mad.

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Originally Posted by pharbehind*:

 

no. not how it used to be before the patch.

 

i had my custom inf only hc running with two presets successfully as well.

 

preset 1 determines e.g. inf only, no vehicles spawning.

preset 2 after map load injected the hardcore setting but

vehicles couldnt spawn anymore.

 

that was good.

 

now it doesnt work anymore and i wonder why as well.

then i injected directly on the server the vars.preset hardcore and

this was given me by the server:

 

[23:35:00] vars.preset Hardcore

[23:35:00] ExecutedOnNextRound

 

tho the preset2 loading doesnt seem to work anymore ?

I'm talking about you Custom preset. You have the minimap enabled within it. On your 1st preset, you have the Custom preset, then on the 2nd preset (after level load) you're setting the server to Hardcore. In regards to just the minimap portion, all new players joining into the server will join without a minimap enabled, while all players who were already there when the map began will have their minimap on. It creates an unfair advantage for all new players.

 

edit: oh yeah, "[23:35:00] ExecutedOnNextRound" that's new with the patch, so I guess that fixes the loophole I mentioned. Therefore, I guess Presets will not work after the level has loaded. I wonder if *any* specific variables can be changed without waiting til next round?

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Originally Posted by staazvaind*:

 

well, not me but you mean leyeti while you refer to my answer on it and yes,

youre right, its different with the minimap. i was so in my own troubles here which correlate

to it a bit that i answered too fast, my fault, sry.

 

 

the problems with my UMM problem stay tho.

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Originally Posted by SAS-bashcam*:

 

Can some post a download of the full BF4.def file that is up to date that works please, as i can only delete or rename on our file manager with Trinity Games procon layer.

As we cant see any of the new maps in UMM,ty in advance.

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Originally Posted by kaytan*:

 

Can some post a download of the full BF4.def file that is up to date that works please, as i can only delete or rename on our file manager with Trinity Games procon layer.

As we cant see any of the new maps in UMM,ty in advance.

You only have to open your Procon Client local, wait for update or trigger it manually and then you have one in your ../procon/config folder.

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Originally Posted by SAS-bashcam*:

 

yep maps in list now tyvm guys

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Originally Posted by staazvaind*:

 

anyone an idea how to have a custom preset go hardcore again ?

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Originally Posted by ihor5*:

 

The plug-in doesn't work with new maps?

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

The plug-in doesn't work with new maps?

Yes, it does. If you don't see them, the BF4.def file on your layer server is not up-to-date.

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Originally Posted by ihor5*:

 

Yes, it does. If you don't see them, the BF4.def file on your layer server is not up-to-date.

how can i uptade it, and i dont know where that file is ?

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

how can i uptade it, and i dont know where that file is ?

This has been covered many times in this thread, including at least twice in the last 2 days. It's in the Configs folder. Find it in your local copy of PRoCon and upload it to your layer server.

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Originally Posted by staazvaind*:

 

falcon, can you let us know as soon you got an idea how to solve the "2nd preset" problem ?

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

falcon, can you let us know as soon you got an idea how to solve the "2nd preset" problem ?

Unfortunately, it can't be solved due to the new server restriction.

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Originally Posted by staazvaind*:

 

hmm.

 

these guys here run the same server like we used to have and they got it working still.

 

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4...FO-encouraged/

 

tho i guess there is a way, just dunno which.

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Originally Posted by falcontx*:

 

Yeah, I'm not sure, either.

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Originally Posted by leyeti*:

 

Good catch. I guess not. DICE watches what we do with the plugins and continues to counter them.

Too bad

Even if I can understand DICE POV, your Plugin is a Genious one, and that's really sad they counter it.

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Originally Posted by Gijzijtdood*:

 

i don't understand that thats there main goal. There are so many flaws in there code but they find it important to fuck there top players and contributers

THx again dice/EA.

Sry for the non helping commend but i'm fed up with dice.

 

Greetings,

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Originally Posted by staazvaind*:

 

i don't understand that thats there main goal. There are so many flaws in there code but they find it important to fuck there top players and contributers

THx again dice/EA.

Sry for the non helping commend but i'm fed up with dice.

 

Greetings,

i m totally with you !

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Originally Posted by ciberloky*:

 

we have had a problem with the full plugin, we have missing all lists maps except one and does not let confgured since last update

 

SOLVED i reinstalled the procon and work again

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Originally Posted by DeeVeeOss*:

 

I'm waiting for the 2nd Assault update. Any word on that or did I miss the boat? (I checked my trash bin and everything, plus I got the one for Feb 2nd...)